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I dont smell any gas no matter how long I let it go. I did a little more testing. The pilot never clicks or turns on. Can you tell me what the input gas normal operating pressure should be. Or if not a gas pressure issue (or clogged burner orifices), then it could be an ignitor failure. This heater includes a digital control panel (LCD) for temperature selection and heater settings. If the unit fails to hold a flame after 3 attempts, it will go into a hard lockout. The display is replaceable, by removing the PCB and squeezing the two tabs on the back that hold the display to the board. If you have come this far, with a pilot burning and 24V at the Orange wire on the Gas Valve, now check for 24V on the Brown wire on the gas valve. I obtained Raypaks propane-to-natural gas conversion kit per the manual which essentially swaps out the gas value regulator, burner orifices, and pilot orifice. Also check and clean where the SS wire connects at the bottom of the pilot. Water is not moving through the exchanger fast enough causing it to super heat. (should be middle of skimmer face). I am suspecting it is not but, worth a check anyway. If the pilot does light, but no main burner. This free printable cheat sheet helps keep your inground, above ground, or Intex pool clean and clear without messing with confusing water chemistry. The 90-second ignition lockout, required by NFG for Propane appliances, shouldnt have much of an impact on the operation of the heater. }. It doesnt show any error codes, but from my research, it could be this. This is the first thing to check on any type of gas appliance. Circuit boards in the good old outdoors tend to fail in 8-10 yrs. I wasnt sure how long on initial unit startup (zero use so far, new install) it should take to fire the heater. Also, confirm that the tank has gas. Or, if very rusty, replace the pilot. The orfice size in the pilot and the burners controls the gas flow. When youre prepared for the possibilities, troubleshooting is much easier. It usually is not worth replacing the PC Board. Just imagine how much easier it would be to diagnose diseases if humans came with error codes.) Hi I have a 4 yr old Raypak 84 Prol model 409. Ambient Weather Wireless 8-Channel Floating Pool and Spa Thermometer, 7 Troubleshooting Tips For Your Pool Pump Not Working, Why Theres Sand in Your Pool and How to Get it Out. No one likes to get an error code on any piece of technology, especially on a Raypak heater. Its nothing more than that just two separate thermostats. Our goal with this blog is to aid you in identifying and defining the error code on your Raypak heater and to provide possible solutions, as per the manufacturer. It is being practiced by thousands of pool owners just like you. And a quick follow up to my prior note: If I did obtain a Raypak conversion kit for propane to natural gas, and do need a new control board that is intact without a broken tab, why on earth would Raypaks conversion kit not discuss or mention the need for a new control board? I reset the vent temp limit switch, checked for exhaust vent blockages (none), and increased the water flow (variable speed pump). Whats going on? What is the model number of the heater? Probably some insulation crept down the wire and interfered with the connection. I have Raypac C-R406A-EN-C. It just says cfh for like 15 seconds, then the hl1 code. If any of them are, simply remove the blockage, and try lighting the pilot again. We have a Raypak M336A, and the tech came out on Monday to turn the pool on for the season. If the heater sparks and fires, then the connection inside the plastic connector has been lost. Once heater cools, high limits resets automatically. Installed a new transformer in the unit and now I have power to the PCB and the LCD backlight turns on but there is nothing displayed. Cant imagine whats wrong or where to start troubleshooting. I have two ray pac units that are giving me problems they both go into pro5 codes and say clean both pumps straners and i take them out and clean them which they both have nothing in restart them both they light and run for 2 minutes they both shut down and relight again but they both go into pro5 codes saying clean straners again but nothing in them . If you remove the front panel can you see if the pilot is lighting? Sometimes, this can be caused by the thermostat itself, and you may need to replace it. Save over $300 by closing and winterizing your own pool in our step-by-step video course. It could be material laying on the burners, or leaves or nests on top of the heat exchanger, or high winds downdrafting, or soot or lime deposits between the copper heat exchanger fins. But try the wire first. "url": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", I work at a rental property and they have a pool&spa area. Its likely that the heat exchanger is sooted and needs to be pulled out and cleaned. I am about to replace the control board but now I think the LCD may be creating the open? Mark, I have replaced the temperature control board on my Laars series one pool heater due to both thermostats wearing out. To get it out and keep it from returning, you have to understand how it got there. 1. Swimming when the days are cooling down is one of the best things about having a pool. I fogot to add Ive backwashed it, pressure is good. Inspect the bypass in the header and confirm the integrity of the bypass spring.

If it appears dirty or corroded- then remove and clean the pilot. Is this the high limit switch? Gone is the pilot generator and mechanical thermostat. They are also equipped with onboard diagnostic controls. We dont use the heater often, but only in the hot tub once in a while. You can find these everywhere Walmart, Home Depot, Radio Shack, and it should cost under $20. Unless youre like my mom whokeeps all her paperwork in afiling cabinet, the manual was probably tossed a week after your product was working properly. The digital readout helps pool owners read error codes on the actual heater. Reset the switch again, and heater seems to work for now. How do you adjust the amount of gas that is coming in? On occasion, you may just be running the heater when its too cold outside. If you have followed the steps to this point and have 24V up to the Spark Ignition Wire, but no spark jumping the gap, the problem may be the Ignition Control Box or IID(Intermittent Ignition Device) (R0011900). Bad sensor? Hi When I turn the setting to pool no problem, but when turning to spa it will ignite and a few seconds later it kick off. That being said, its likely that you will need a new gas valve, but you dont necessarily have to change the PC Board. My Hayward H350 fires up but as soon as the igniter stops ticking it shuts off. The sensor is located on the inlet side of the inlet/outlet header (where water enters the heater), in a white compression fitting. 1. If you find rust in your pool while the heaters running, its a good bet its coming from the heater. It'll help you save $100 right away on pool care! Could there be another component failure that could cause this?

10 Steps to Winterize Your Above Ground Pool, Raising Pool Equipment for Flood Protection, Flooded Inground Pool: 10-Steps to Recovery. I have a Raypak 2100 digital that will not ignite. I have a raypack P-M266A-EP-x. Whooosh! Is there a firemans switch interlocking your time clock with the heater? Did the manual ship with the unit? Error codes are both curses and blessings. Since the code HL1 comes up within about 15 seconds after turning it on, it is probably a bad high limit switch? After running through all of the steps at least twice if you want some confirmation of your Laars heater troubleshooting, you can call us at 877-766-5287 (1-877-POOLCTR), to speak with a pool tech, who can answer any questions on the process. The 14A picture diagram, shows the placement of the two Hi-Limit sensors as Key 6 on the headers. The heater display says Vent temp limit. Its throwing the HL1 and GVO codes. It is clearly an failure. The Raypak gas heater is a high-efficiency pool heater with a small footprint. After reviewing a couple of Raypak diagrams, the 266A residential atmospheric heaters uses two of the Hi-Limit 135 Degree Surface Mount (006725f). If sensor has red reset button, press button & determine cause. "description": "Second in our Series of Gas Pool Heater Troubleshooting Guides, today discussing early electronic pool heaters from the mid-80s to the late 90s by Laars, Raypak, etc" Electronic heaters are wired up with 110V or 220V power directly into a transformer, which steps down the power to 24V. A temperature rise can be done with a special thermometer inserted into the drain plug hole (pn R0336000),to see how high the temperature is rising inside of the header. Hi-Limit 135 Degree Surface Mount (006725f). If it doesnt reset, then the hi-limit switch could be bad. You will get much more visibility by. Water temperature is below 36F or above 110F.

I'll try igniting again with the front panel off. 2) Now, when I turn power on, it goes through its cycle but stays on SPK. Basically, the pilot is not proving within 90 seconds. When I try to press the red reset button on the rollout switch (or what I think is the rollout switch) I hear a big click and it tries to spark again. You will need to remove the side access panel above the inlet/outlet, then follow the wires as they lead to the main control panel. This continues cycling off and on, yet is does not stay burning. If you dont get 24 volts on the transformer, Replace the transformer (pn R0061100), they go bad every once in a while. Any help or info is greatly appreciated! I have checked all sensors and none are bad. "url": "https://blog.intheswim.com/" It could be the long pin connector on the back of the board. }, "url": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", Thanks, Hi. Installed new filters and the flow pressure is fine. I get a CFH, then an HL1(with the Service Flashing). "datePublished": "9/29/2015", How many times did you wish you kept something after you have convincedyourself that you didnt need it and threw it away? Any new postings here are unlikely to be seen or responded to by other members. Chances are good that a mouse got up into the heater and chewed the sensor wires. According to the manual for a Raypak heat pump, the issue is, dSd The suction line temperature sensor is open or may be defective. "thumbnailUrl": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", All error code guides are not made equal. Millivolt heaters do not need an external electric connection, but the early electro-mechanical and todays digital heaters do require a power connection. It could have either been melted or chewed by rodents. Hi lou, the most common IF (ignition failure) problem is usually low gas pressure. Or is it in the rear? "name": "Mark Garcia", }, In some cases, the high limit switch could be faulty, which may signal a natural gas pool heater to turn off before its heated the water to the desired temperature. 1. The key is to know how to troubleshoot your natural gas pool heater. I looked up the HL1 code and it says something about the temp being too high for the high limit. To access the control panel, the front door needs to be removed as does the two screws on each side of the control panel. I have an old Raypak 2100 pool heater Model CR 185 EN. The only thing is it wont start up in the first place, so no heat is being generated. You may also suspect the volume and pressure of gas supply at this point, Propane tanks could be low, or other high demand natural gas appliances could be in use. If power is coming out of ignition control, check violet and black section of wire for cuts, missing insulation, loose spade connections, etc. Said signal is a DC signal and could be interrupted by a loose or disconnected ground wire, chewed or bare wire leading from the gas valve up to the PC board, or a loose connection at the PC board. Replace gas valve. Gas hot water heaters work the same way. If your heater has a transformer and an IID box, a grey Fenwal or other ignition control box, then it would need power, from a breaker or jumped off an electrical outlet. Ended up buying the current model from Inyo Pools and replaced it myself. Used it extensively last summer, just tried to fire it up this year with no luck. But now it wont ignite, it just sparks. Then make sure the pool heater is turned on, and the gas supply valve is in the on position. FIXED!!! I have taken off the front cover but do not know where to go from there. I have an electrical Raypak pool heater. Help!? It will not re-ignite and stay on SPK until the power is cycled. I would also inspect all other wiring in the unit prior to replacing the 5 amp fuse and powering up the heater. Hi! However, it can also be a result of a damaged internal bypass or excessive water flow. JavaScript is disabled. Then we followed the instructions for powering everything off including the electricity at the breaker box. The temp sensor wires plug into the board near the bottom RH side. It means something is wrong and needs to be addressed soon. Inspect the wires too, looking for any obvious signs of damage from heat or rodents. If you do have power, at 24V (or at least 22V) at the Brown wire and the heater wont fire give the gas valve a little tap with a hammer (really!). If I hold down the red reset button, the screen says ROL and SERVICE in the upper right corner. Thank you for the response. Thank you. If you hear a click and a spark, then the display is bad and the PCB is good. Next, verify that you have 24 volts coming in and out of the transformer. Possible downdraft of burner flame. "height": "219", If a spring start, could be air in the line. Check water levels at skimmer face. If no power is found coming into the pressure switch, back-up and test each Hi-Limit (4B 4C) and the Firemans Switch terminal (which shuts the heater off 15 minutes before the pump timer is going to shut off, for a cool down period). Do you think i need a new PCB or just the display? Gas appears to be on, could it be a low gas flow issue? What can i do. I keep getting a dsd or d5d code. Check the gaskets and connections first before moving on to more expensive repairs. Power found at either PV or MV at the incorrect time. With thermostat turned up, the call for heat should be sending a small, visible electric spark, jumping the gap from the end of the rubber coated wire, to the connector. "name": "In The Swim", "contentUrl": "https://x1.adis.ws/v1/media/graphics/i/lesl/its-logo-wide", If all of that is in order, then make sure the thermostat is set to a temperature higher than the water temperature. If this is the case, youll have to wait for warmer weather. So I let it attempt to light for several minutes and now get the error code Ignition Failure, no pilot sensed. Try a new section of wire harness. If you find no voltage or less than 24 volts on the black wire (outgoing) of the pressure switch, check for a dirty filter, dirty pump or skimmer baskets or closed or partially closed valves or broken check valves. Are there any troubleshooting tips to address this or do I just need to call a tech? Move your Red meter lead to both sides of the Fusible Link. Do you know what I should do. "@context": "https://schema.org/", You have a pool, not a beach, so you don't want any sand in your pool. Excessive corrosion on the pilot could also interfere with the proving signal. If pilot stays lit, the pilot valve in the gas valve is hanging open. "@type": "ImageObject", Ive got a RP2100, its worked fine for about 10 years, in the last week it will only heat up to about 85 deg. "address": "", "@type": "Organization", Should you need further advice or technical information, please give Raypak a call at 805-278-5300. At sometime during the long day of enjoying, I went to turn off the heater and noticed a CFH code. Is there any way to determine if the LCD is just not working and the PCB is? Old unit was completely corroded. If power exists at the pilot valve, loosen the pilot tube from the gas valve and see if gas comes out.

But nothing can end your cool weather swimming season more quickly than a faulty heater. "headline": "Spark Ignition Pool Heater Troubleshooting Guide",

Turn power OFF and disconnect Ignition Wire and Gas Valve wires from board. The high limit trip is telling us the water in the header is exceeding 135 degrees. Here are some common pool pump problems and how to fix them. However, since my Raypak was originally sold (to my homes prior owner) as a propane heater, the control board has the broken tab for propane heaters. Thanks. We do hear the click sound of the igniter trying to spark. "primaryImageOfPage": { "logo": { Recently had my transformer replaced on my Raypak 407a heater. Louis, the automatic bypass assembly can affect pressure and flow, it is located in the front header, where the pipes are attached, and allows water to bypass the heat exchanger and bypass into the exit side of the front header or manifold. Thanks again. Getting a sensor failure code. When you are seeing SPK, check to see if the pilot is lighting. "@type": "BlogPosting", Support your local swimming pool blog! Air can be a good thing in lots of places. Although an error message is never really a good thing, at least its an indication of what the problem is. "height": "219", Im fairly handy but dont want to pull things apart that dont need to be. I don't think it is spiders because it is brand new. The unit is brand new but sat in garage for a year waiting for gas line install. i have a Raypak P-R207A-EN-C that is giving a PV output fault. It just seems that since it isnt even heating up, it cant be hitting 135 f in the water. When it turns on it calls for heat, says spark, the pilot lights, then opens gas for the burner and burns for 3 seconds says heating, the burner turns off then calls for spark again. I have a Raypack R406A heater that I inherited when I bought my home. If you click this link and make a purchase, we earn a commission at no additional cost to you. Oh, I almost forgot heres the link for over150 gas pool heater parts schematics! If no power out of ignition control, then check the green ground wire connection at the gas valve. The panic really doesnt set in until you realize error code BD1 means absolutely nothing to you. ASpark Ignition is akin to an electronic gas stove top. Once the safety circuitry checks out, the gas valve opens and releases gas to the burners. Will the unit fault or not fire due to the control board with the broken off tab? We cut out all the confusion of pool maintenance in this easy-to-read illustrated ebook and video course. If indeed this is the case, I can have one sent to you. Turn off power at toggle switch and source, then re-establish power. If your heater has no power at all, check the circuit breaker or look for a popped GFCIoutlet. I can help you with the pool heater, but I would need to know the model number of the pool heater. Then after I turned the power off and turned back on, after the CFH code a CLK code comes up. Have you tried any of the things mentioned in the Possible Solutions column? Be sure you are contacting the brass metalof the terminal.

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