Liquid soap does not actually have a neutral pH, only synthetic detergents have a neutral pH. Cindy Jones (from Sagescript, a fantastic resource for challenge testing etc for lotions) had an excellent point on another site about showing effectiveness in actual product (versus in a petri dish).
I SO hate when people confuse those words and I just did it. For calculating percents, try following the following three rules: 1. Is there something else I could have used ???
I hope this helps.
. I am curious as to whether or not Optiphen is lip safe. It it tough to give an exact amount of time that ROE will extend the life of your soap, but the average has been known to be 3 months against rancidity. This information on Phenonip comes from the Skin Deep Cosmetics website which rates the hazard level of it as 6-7 (on a scale of 0 being entirely safe to 10 being extremely dangerous). It's listed as the preservative in a recipe that I want to try for cream soap (hence posting it in the soap section-oops my bad). If I were to use Optiphen, I could no longer call my product all natural. Its been about a month and ive noticed theres small beads in it. The type of preservative you choose for your product is up to you and Im glad that there are effective options for everyone out there that wants to responsibly use a full spectrum preservative, its simply a personal preference :).
Im assuming the potassium vs. sodium alkali used is a big determinate in the liquid vs bar soap and also the pH.
. How to Convert %s to Weight Amounts: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/lotion/how-to-convert-s-to-weight-amounts-2/, Say for instance you have 40 ounces of melt and pour soap and the usage of your fragrance oil is 5%.
How to use bath salts as a scrub? Because you are not adding more water to the product, you would not need to add more preservatives.
: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/tangle-free-soap-queen-tv-2/, The Optiphen ND is best for products with a pH under 6 (which is quite low) and isnt an oil-soluble preservative or one that Bramble Berry carries yet. Following the logic of liquid soaps not likely needing one but adding the sugar and glycerin to the formula could require it?
=). However if you are planning on giving some of it away, or keeping it out of the fridge, anything with water in it needs a preservative. If so, I was thinking Optithen would be my best bet. Sometimes it can take us a day or two to get to blog questions since we have so many, but we always answer them! Is there any rhyme or reason in choosing the exact percentage of preservative within the given recommended range (ex: 0.5% vs. 1% in a recommended range of 0.5-1.5%)?
-Becky with Bramble Berry. If you were to add a fresh item like lemon zest, it will eventually go brown and that the shelf life of your soap is going to be a bit shorter because of that.
But Im not sure on which one to use. Does my soap need a preservative? Per Ashland, Optiphen Plus preservative should be used in cosmetic products at concentrations in the range of 0.75% to 1.5%. I have tried melt & pour which I am not Kean on feels rubbery to me & recently started re batching & I love it! Im needing some help understanding what it means when you say total weight of the recipe. Yeesh I meant are THERE.
I have one question, If you our making a homemade shampoo and conditioner and wanted to add a color what would be the best dye and color choice you would recommend.
This is a great question and we see it all the time.
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Im not familiar with the soap making lingo yet and couldnt figure it out on my own. I have searched and found reliable preservatives I can use in good conscience. We dont really prefer one (Optiphen vs. Optiphen Plus) over the other and find that both works fabulously as the other one. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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=) I maybe wanted to do the GSB because its food grade and non toxic but people really seem to love optiphen plus in their ingredients..any suggestions? Its kinda hard for me to get hold of the chemical ingredients here from where I come from. =).
For your sugar scrubs and bath salts, I would definitely suggest using Phenonip as your preservative as this will help them from growing any unwanted microbes will not in use. I bought Optiphen ND because I thought I saw somewhere to use that for LabColors.
I think where you are getting mixed up, is that youre done!
Youll have to keep us updated.
Thanks so much for any info you can give!!!
I hope this helps! Tutorials on soapmaking, bath fizzies, lotions and more. It isnt going to have the same smell and you arent going to use ROE to scent your products.
You may also be interested in this blog post, it has more information on preservatives .
thank you! Heather.
thanks. Im making shampoo for dogs to sell.
If your product doesnt contain water, but you still want to preserve it, Id suggest going for Optiphen as your preservative of choice.
So happy to hear youre going to make your own hair care products, how fun! Please list your EORI number (Economic Operators' Registration and Identification Number) in your order notes to avoid processing delays. Hi Everyone! Do bath fizzy, bath salts, body butters and lip balm need any? For more on making your liquid soap from scratch, you can check out these links: Liquid Soapmaking E-Book: https://www.brambleberry.com/Liquid-Soapmaking-E-Book-P4712.aspx, Liquid Soapmaking Online Video: https://www.brambleberry.com/Liquid-Soapmaking-Online-Video-P4828.aspx, Liquid Soap Guru Kit: https://www.brambleberry.com/Liquid-Soap-Guru-Kit-P4829.aspx, Here is a great liquid soap recipe that doesnt need a preservative: http://www.soapqueen.com/business/luxurious-liquid-soap-for-just-1-24-you-bet-2/. If youd like to learn more about preservatives, you may find this blog post helpful! Sorry if this is a repeat question! Unfortunately, there is no way to prevent that.
I hope this helps .
Although, they have aloe juice, Thats a question were often asked.
Again, I cant speak to the company you asked about in question but I do know that preservative hiding is a loophole that some companies do exploit.
Youre correct, Optiphen Plus is not recommended for oil based products.
Becky, -Becky with Bramble Berry, I have a suggestion for a Talk It Out Tuesday post.
I personally do not mind using a product that is not 100% natural gosh, my hair dye is filled with chemicals. Its an excellent moisturizer!
You will always want to go by weight when using a preservative in any of your products.
You cannot paste images directly. I have been dying to make some lotion bars and liquid soap/bodywash, but I have gotten hestitant from all the preservative vs. non preservative talk.
Thanks for stopping by! Welcome to the soaping world, we are so happy to have you.
Its full of great tips , Liquid Soapmaking E-Book: It is made from fresh fruits, sugar, milk & cream.
The only exception for this would be cold process soap as the pH is too high for mold, bacteria or microbes to grow in.
(I plan on buying a small scale JUST for preservatives and essential oils!!)
Would this be a good idea or should I divide it in separate bowls and THEN add the preservatives as I make the gel and spray? After that, it is really up to the customer whether or not they want to purchase products without preservatives.
For more on shelf-lives, here is a great post to check out: Free Beginner`s Guide to Soapmaking: Common Soapmaking Oils: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/free-beginners-guide-to-soapmaking-common-soapmaking-oils/, I hope this helps! Optiphen Plus Optiphen Plus is awater-soluble, paraben- and formaldehyde-free preservative.
Can you use the optiphen in lotion and cremes that contain water and oil???
Everything was all good until I added my Otiphen.
I would prefer only getting one if possible.
If so, which would you recommend? Use 1% of this or 5% of that. I know the difference between weight and volume can be a bit confusing, but we are totally here to help you out with any questions that you may have.
Unless i read this wrong, isnt that like saying if you buy something for $5 and pay 7% tax, then if you buy two of them you pay 14% tax?
The pastes are very easy to use, all you need to do is dilute them!
But even then, Id probably err on the side of 3 months, even stored in the fridge. =) Yep!
If you are unable to find preservatives in your area, Bramble Berry does ship internationally and our customer service gals would be more than happy to help you place an order. I just cant find everything where I live, I have Sodium benzoate and Methylparaben.
Here are a few I like: Tiger Stripe Hanger Swirl this one uses lots of essential oils: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/tiger-stripe-hanger-swirl-tutorial/, Oven Process Layers this is a hot process recipe that uses essential oils and clays: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/hot-process-series-oven-process-layers/, Sunshine Cold Process Soap this is a wonderful spring time recipe with essential oils and Calendula petals: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/cold-process-soap/making-sunshine-cold-process-soap/, Nettle Bar Soap this page has a super simple recipe for soap using nettle extract: https://www.brambleberry.com/Easy-Extract-Recipes-W21.aspx.
I have done quite a bit of research into this and come up with what I think is a great range of preservative options: Germaben Germaben is a fabulous preservative to us when you are diluting Bramble Berrys Lab Colors, as it keeps any nasties from growing in your colors (gohereto learn how to dilute your LabColors using Germaben). http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/soaks-and-scrubs/coconut-oil-pink-salt-scrub/, Rose Clay Sugar Scrub: http://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-body-tutorials/soaks-and-scrubs/rose-clay-sugar-scrub/, Sweet Summer Scrub: I totally know what you mean, Ive learned so much more math and chemistry since I started soapmaking who knew it would come in handy so often! Many soapers like to store their soap in shoe boxes or plastic containers.
Usage Rate: 1% of the total weight of your recipe and must be used at a temperature lower than176F.
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