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4. they are trying to shut down the restaurant. Live with them. And the courts and city need to get it sorted out so it ends, and everyone knows what the rules are going forward. It's number three on the NYT best seller today. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; phone: 601-362-6121 (ext 11 sales, ext 16 editorial, ext 17 publisher) That is over the line, and the childish fingerpointing about stuff you've supposedly "seen" here is irrelevant. Opinion forums lead to passionate feelings. That is probably still good advice today, no matter who owns the Fairview now. I don't normally blog, but I respect the way you handle your blog and keep it to the issues. Please! Leave them the [emailprotected]*k alone, Truran, and stop playing all innocent in this. I'll tell you why if you respond to my inquiry. because it should. i think "demonized" is a very loaded word. The bottom line is that the zoning probably needs to be changed, rather than just seeking special exemptions. Sadly, I don't think this issue is really about NIMBYism*; I think it's pretty straightforward a law problem. Hell, there's more traffic there for a wedding than any given day of the restaurant. Until something is alleged that is slanderous or criminal, without substantiated facts, aren't we entitled to be passionate about our observations?? If your travels take near Jackson Ms. this is the place to stay. Pretty disappointing that you can't have a lightly used restaurant just feet from the North State Street commercial corridor.

i just hate for some of our "backwards thinking" jacksonians tying that to the Sharps, present day. QB, it sounds like Barrett-Simon has her head on straight and it trying to deal with this without demonizing the neighbors of the business. User assumes all risk of use. We have stayed in Inns across the US and Fairview Inn ranks we the best. No hard and fast answer, Belhaven. Largest dining area with French windows, fireplace, Victorian fans and elegant setting. they may have had beef with simons (could they have, because of his involvements with that group you mention him a part of?) It's not like some learned Judge simply reviewed the trial court transcript and decided to reverse and render the decision in favor of the plaintiffs. They did inherit the problem--which seemed to come about in the first place from an innkeeper who was used to getting his way in Jackson. Someone had to pay for the appeal; someone had to write all the appellate briefs; someone had to go argue the appeal in front of the Supreme Court panel. Jackson, MS 39202 A smart compromise is needed, and efforts to strengthen the law in a fair way that doesn't play favorites. The Plaintiffs in this case aren't some crusaders of justice who will file suit to enforce zoning laws and prohibit spot zoning. So let's be clear, the Modak-Trurans and the Bakers have no problems at all with the Bed and Breakfast and are not trying to put the Fairview Inn out of business. "The lawyers are meeting tomorrow, but I think they will do that.". but couldn't they now push for the sharps, and put their muscle behind doing something positive for jackson? Fairview Inn & Restaurant Actually, another poster made the statement and I was was trying to defend him. I'm guessing Ward will follow up.

They have built the Fairview into something that all Jacksonians can be proud of. I hope it can be worked out in a way that makes more sense than the way the Simmonses finagled it. "Unfortunately they didn't create this situation," Modak-Truran said. Modak-Truran said that he regrets the tension the case has caused and that he feels badly for the Sharps. ;-) Sorry. You don't seem to understand the meaning of "trash talk" as I'm using it, and seem unwilling to examine why the statement I called out of yours is different from others here, including your other statements. That's it exactly, GLewis. They picked the easiest target - the restaurant - in an effort to shut the whole operation down. Will continue returning over and over again! site by ChamberMaster. btw, had lunch at sophia's today. How do you sustain a wait staff and a kitchen staff on that type of revenue?".

;-) See Euclid. They should have been informed that there was a very good chance that we would win. it doesn't look to me that they feel too bad, though, or else they wouldn't continue to push this.

I can also sympathize with the defendants, and the practical advantage of having a restaurant there, and just wanting to stay in business. if (d.getElementById(id)) return; True on the wedding issues. opinions, substantiated or not, are going to be shared, no? and it's one the sharps are unfortunately having to fight for. A full scale restaurant operation is incompatible with an R-2 designation. We said back when it came up the first time that they should have been lobbying to change the zoning, not just get an exemption for their own business because that wasn't likely to be sustainable, especially when someone else couldn't get the same exemption -- the old fairness problem. "I feel bad for themthey inherited this." "We still support Fairview in terms of the bed-and-breakfast," Mark Modak-Truran said. "I always put up my colleagues from other universities there when they're coming into town. One good thing about the neighbors' opposition: It forced the Simmonses to at least try to control what was going on better and understand that they couldn't just do anything they wanted. Lovely stay at the Fairview. Luxury rooms. I personally believe that every side in the debate has the interests of the city at heart. (function(b,d,a,c){b.getElementById(d)||(c=b.getElementsByTagName(a)[0],a=b.createElement(a),a.type="text/javascript",a.async=!0,a.src="http://www.greaterjacksonpartnership.com/Content/Script/Ads.min.js",c.parentNode.insertBefore(a,c))})(document,"mni-ads-script","script"); We haven't been invited to participate in the process. they aren't asking that the zoning law be changed. Those of us who "know" the Sharps are passionate about protecting their interests and what they contribute to the city. Adjacent to our library, this private room is perfect for business meetings and family celebrations. You're going to have to trust me on this one and heed my warning to continue posting on this site. I have nothing against the Sharps. Instead, they are people who don't want to live across the street from a B&B , spa, event facility, and restaurant. i'm no lawyer, but i know that much. I understand this. It probably involves a change in zoning that allows certain kinds of businesses and the regulation and community-response period that goes along with that. Reminiscent of a French country bistro, the intimate dining All listings are informational only. They could have withdrawn the appeal at any time; they could have failed to submit a brief; they could have failed to appear at oral argument. I am not involved in this dispute in any way other than what I already disclosed - the Fairview has been generous to a nonprofit of which I am a board member. Instead, they are people who don't want to live across the street from a B&B, spa, event facility, and restaurant. That's what the Mississippi Court has held. They responded like "wow"it's real. ;-). I mean the thing is four star upper upscale.Whose propety values aren't going up in that block. provisions Point of inquiry, Donna: are you claiming that supporters of the Fairview actually contacted you personally, told you that you were the first person to tell them about Bill Simmons' political past, and that those people then were conflicted over your information? It's fine to mention Simmons, but why not add more information about the Sharps, who are wonderful folks. I guess this is where the argument comes from (with all due respect). Ladd, you said earlier that "They've made it clear that they're not against the B&B ." I doubt the compromise involves a special exemption. It is like having an extra kitchen and dining room that you never have to clean up for those days that you don't feel like it! In addition to owning the Inn, Bill Simmons was national director of the Citizens Council, a precursor to the pro-white Council of Conservative Citizens, for many years. I don't live over there any more. Piano Jazz featuring Knight Bruce for Sunday Buffet Brunch. 2. OK that said, all of my friends and biz associates know I am from Jackson and all of them are reading that book. Take personal responsibility for your own posts, please, and self-regulate that kind of stuff out if you want to post here. If QB had said "in my opinion, this looks like", would he have been in the right then? It's one of those rare issues that really does seem to have two solid sides to it, and I see them both, and don't believe either side should be demonized: the Sharps or the Modak-Trurans. What does that have to do with anything??? period. I'm in a the business of knowing the difference. We had to pick many beer bottles up out of our yard when we lived over there after weddings and parties at the Fairview. Nestled in the Belhaven District of Jackson, Peter & Tamar Sharp invite you to experience Sophias Restaurant. Reminiscent of a French country bistro, the intimate dining room has a romantic atmosphere, with a garden-like setting and its own private entrance on the west side of the Inn. This is a tough situation.

The Fairview Inn Amendments greatly expand the use from a small bed and breakfast with a sporadic social event into a full scale restaurant (not the "small restaurant" being blogged about). fairview inn into tuck hangout neighborhood lounge library If you're going to argue that it needs a zoning exemption, do that based on a real argument -- not a fake one that it's not somehow a huge part of a residential neighborhood. i've seen worse assumptions made on this board. 734 Fairview St, Jackson, Mississippi, USA. It's not journalistic bias I'm concerned about; you're potentially committing libel by stating unsubstantiated facts about other people -- we're not talking about committing a criminal act. Will be back.

and i'll agree with stuart that there could have been a larger focus on the more recent history of the inn - including the efforts the sharps have put into making it what it is today. (*For those who don't recognize the NIMBY term, it stands for Not In My Back Yard, and is usually used in cases of well-to-do people not wanting social services in their communities because they don't want their property values to fall or be around "those" people. i will say this, though: with the HUGE turnout they had Saturday (and that isn't exaggeration to say), traffic was NOT an issue AT ALL. a curious side note about Belhaven: Chef Gary Hawkins selects fresh, regional ingredients and prepares them with his own eclectic flair, emphasizing local fresh seafood. Truran says his concern centers around "serving alcohol in a residential neighborhood"?

Most of the plaintiffs are attorneys at large law firms and represented themselves. I know you're an attorney; are you involved in this in any way? On the other hand, I also sympathize with the neighbors and can very well imagine times when having a commercial establishment across the street wouldn't be welcome. Their examples of that type of behavior are directly related to the plaintiffs' own attempts to shut down the allegedly "high density commercial uses." We are free to state our opinions (in my humble opinion) without the worry of journalistic bias being alleged. Lunch: Monday - Friday: 11:00am - 2:00pmDinner: Tuesday - Saturday: 5:30pm - 9:30pmSunday Brunch: 11:00am - 2:00pmLibrary Lounge:Monday - Friday: 4:00PM - closingSaturday: 12noon-closing. To clear up any misunderstanding by fellow bloggers, our position is as follows: Hopefully the Jackson leaders can work out an agreement between the interested parties that doesn't result in a closure of the business. QB, I'm not saying you can't have the restaurant there. I mean what is the big deal. This is one of those issues where we've never taken a position on the zoning part -- other than trying to warn people that an exemption was shortsighted (and, thus, have been proved correct). but as i have said before, this is being pursued by the trurans and could have been put to rest with a neighborhood agreement/proposition to change the zoning law (with the trurans advocating in that regard.) (More urgent stories at hand.) I don't know the Sharps and I don't know much about the Sharps. Donna, Attorneys have 10 days to ask the Supreme Court to reconsider. After reading this again, i am wondering, Ward, why drag up Simmonses negative connections to the pro white organization? Post Office Box 22548 | Jackson, Mississippi 39225 | P: (601) 948-7575 | F:(601) 352-5539 |contact@greaterjacksonpartnership.com They started being more neighborly after that. The homely atmosphere of this place allows customers to relax after a hard working day. Thank you 2599.

Sharp worries about the restaurant's future if it cannot serve the public. As for "feet from" North State Street, recall that the Fairview Inn and its environs take up most of that block. I will say that I predicted then that this ruling might not stand. but let's look at who is playing both sides here. It's a beautiful inn. because it should. I don't think Jackson can afford this kind of NIMBYism. Updated Aug. 17 to correct the Fairview Inn's street. There are bigger issues in Jackson to fight against (or stand up for) Mr. Truran. It must be blind. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. Good wine or delicious beer are waiting for you at Fairview Inn. It's not the CL boards, thank goodness, but nevertheless. OK behave. Donna writes: "My point is not against the Sharps; it is saying to rally the community to lobby to get the laws more friendly to mixed-use zoning if that's what you want to see, rather than relying on special favors. i hope you are implying the zoning change should should favor the sharps. Peter Sharp, who owns and operates the Belhaven bed-and-breakfast with his wife Tamar, said today that attorneys representing the Inn and the city will likely ask the Supreme Court to reconsider its decision. The courts should determine whether or not zoning exemptions are allowed, and give instructions on whether what is needed is a zoning change. "It would have a very negative effect on us," Sharp said. I think part of our disagreement, Tom and ladd, is that I don't see this as a "legal" issue per se. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1"; Peter and Tamar Sharp bought the Inn from the Simmonses in August 2006. According to the reviewers' opinions, the decor can be described as beautiful. This is is a zoning issue.

This filing shows their true colors, that they want to shut down this "high density commercial use."

My impression has been that the Sharps are more attuned to the needs of the n'hood than were the Simmonses when they ran it; they came across as annoyed that the neighbors would dare challenge what they were doing. Now they've gone and upset the bridge club. It's kinda basic. It's one of those rare issues that really does seem to have two solid sides to it, and I see them both, and don't believe either side should be demonized: the Sharps or the Modak-Trurans. This isn't a situation where either "side" is wrong, or should be demonized. We have a nice little house in Madison- the only thing that is wrong with it is that you have to drive to dine out, drive to go to the store or pharmacy, even have to drive somewhere else if you want to take a walk- no sidewalks and no enforced leash laws Jackson Free Press, Inc. I did, however, write about it when it seemed no one else was talking about it, and as a result some people learned about it who didn't seem to know, or at least so they said. 2599, with due respect, you are here because we invite you to be. It's a matter of opinion. But I can't speak to it recently either way. I also like that it provides a nice restaurant venue in a residential area -- mixed use, if you will.

But no one's saying the Trurans did anything criminal here. Perfect for bridal showers and elegant dinner, this room features crystal chandeliers, antique furnishings and versatile seating arrangements. "It seems like the Simmonses tried to use more political influence on the city to get them to use this alternative procedure," Mark Modak-Truran said. In sum, bloggers may not like our position, and that I can respect. this may, at the end of the day, simply be a legal issue. We recommend the Fairview Inn Bed and Breakfast to business guests and family members.

q4launch fairview Patio Dining, Fireplace, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Bar Seating, Smoking Area (patio), Brunch, Bar (Full), Private Rooms, Lounge, Smoking Area, Wine, Beer, Private Spaces. The four, all of whom are lawyers and representing themselves, then appealed to the state Supreme Court.

Let's be honest, there is alot of trash talking on this board. Also, are you insinuating through your comment, that you "broke" this material, and were responsible for the core group of supporters awareness of same? Lots of problems with the terms of the legislation passed in favor of the Fairview Inn. The first created a new classification for a bed-and-breakfast with a public restaurant, and the second exempted the Fairview from applying for a special use permit. It's not like Sophia's is swamped with people every meal. "We knew the suit was pending, but we didn't think that it was going to go this way," Sharp said. All who have addressed the problem understand it's legal ramifications; however, it is so unfortunate for the now owners who have spent so much time and money into making Fairview a class act. I remember when the Simmonses lobbied for the restaurant, so many people turned out in their support for a special zoning exemption. http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090903/NEWS/909030352/Court-ruling-may-close-restaurant Pay fair prices for eating at this bar. 1. It's spot-zoning, and spot-zoning is an invitation to redlining. If you made it out to Saturday's open house/picnic, you would have seen first hand what a gem the Fairview AND Sophia's (and nomispa) is to Belhaven and Jackson, MS. "They inherited it.". Damn neighbors with nothing better to do with their time and educations! 2599, you need to learn the difference between opinion and accusations or, worse, stating things about other people as fact. Now, let's examine the issue from the stand point of homeowners who never in their wildest dream would imagine a full scale restaurant in their front door. My assumptions are due to my experiences with this type of situation. i'm no legal expert, but couldn't they have had this dropped, or pushed for jackson to create that special zoning. From what I hear, the two complaining couples are practically alone in this - the Belhaven neighborhood Association supports the restaurant. I don't see any VILLAINS here, I just see a very grave mistake made re: how the site was zoned and I hope it can be resolved fairly in some fashion that still allows the restaurant to stay open. www.fairviewinn.com, Greater Jackson Chamber Partnership Visit Website Lots of problems with the manner in which the City of Jackson enacted the Fairview Inn Amendments. It would be transparent to tell us that, if so, and you could still make your arguments. (function(d, s, id) { I couldn't have really broken the material, considering that it was an open secret all those years. And I sure don't envy them the chore of dealing with the karma they inherited. Leave it to Mississippi to come up with a "NIMBY" project that involves an upscale restaurant! and you know there are many who would, even though it has NOTHING to do with the current issue. But this simply isn't a case of a liquor store being opened next to a school.

User agreement and privacy statement. No problem with the Fairview Inn Bed and Breakfast. it was my first visit and i'd like to return. i sure hope they get to stick around. The restaurant does bring a different type of commerce to the street than the B&B does and, of course, the neighbors should have a say in whether or not they want that there. It's 100 +/- feet from North State not like in the middle of Belhaven. Enjoyable service is something that visitors note in their comments. Take your money, your passion, and your degree, and do something GOOD for our city! ;-) Reporters have a lot of balls in the air right now, and this one isn't the most urgent one, news wise. It's kinda basic."

event fairview jackson inn ms I won't let anyone say that kind of stuff about you, unsubstantiated, either, for the record. It was as if there was a media blackout on it. I do hope it works out well for everyone, though. It's just that when you look at the addition of a full-service restaurant serving alcohol in a residential neighborhoodthere are good reasons why if you were going to do that you'd have to be in a commercial zone or get a special use permit.". If it can't be, then no, spot-zoning is just as wrong if the owners are nice and the food is good and the neighbors don't mind. 125 S. Congress St. #1324 * Jackson, MS * 39201, Luckett, DuPree Push Education, Business Help. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); PartyCache and PartyBook are trademarks of ForTheFairest,LLC. On Thursday, the high court ruled 6-3 that a 2004 city zoning amendment allowing a public restaurant at the inn constituted "spot zoning" and was thus illegal. When we shared that information then, it gave pause to many of the people who were trying to get them a special permit. In the meantime, Sophia's Restaurant at the Inn will remain "in full operation," Sharp said. Class act.

I know you've all heard about "The Help".

It has ended up where it would and should: In the courts to determine whether the zoning exemption was done properly in the first place, and what kind of precedence should be set. Otherwise, as I've said, I'm neutral. why call him/her out? But that's not relevant, I guess. For a good example of what happens when selective zoning is used to control which businesses and organizations can operate in a given community, we need look no further than the Madison mosque controversy. I know one of the plaintiff couples, and they are good people. This bar offers perfectly cooked prawns, steaks and fish listed on the menu. Fairview is mentioned in the book as are several Jackson landmarks.I'm kinda an ambassador for Jackson now (always was though). But we are entitled to protect our home, and we are doing so within our legal rights. i think s/he is making an observation. It's petty, and it's beneath most of you. Thanks, 2599. The city initially warned the couple that their restaurant violated the inn's zoning, but after meeting with the couple, city officials changed their tune and said that "social gatherings" could include a dinner reserved ahead of time. And I rather doubt you help the Sharps any in the public eye by acting out like that, and it is not welcome here. ;-) And I know you understand the importance of history, considering what you do, and know that mentioning the history of a building and the person who created the issue in the first place is not a reflection on the current owners. At the time they did it, Simmons ran it, and I sure didn't feel he was owed any favors. i hope you are implying the zoning change should should favor the sharps. Had one issue and their service recovery efforts were on point! and don't tell me they didn't have to submit a brief, show up for orals, or otherwise put effort into continually pursuing this. It would be like saying David Duke used to stay there when he visited Jackson (and I'm not implying he ever did, just using that as a point). yes, it brings a different crowd into the neighborhood, but so do weddings (where many have been drinking when they leave AND add to the traffic issues.) That's about all there is to share about it. This building is filled with history, and it doesn't make sense to leave that history out of stories about it. The Fairview Inn has lost its fight to keep the zoning designation that allowed it to run its business in a residential Jackson neighborhood. Ladd, QB (nor any of us here but you) are journalists.

Out of line. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); This is trash talk and unsubstantiated allegation, 2599: That's not the same as opinion; and saying it is your opinion that it's true is not a defense. It is surrounded by residential on three sides, including the two longest sides. You could get it dropped if you wanted to. QB, I got those documents last night but haven't had time to read them. My whole point is that I have not taken a side, and am open to all sides to the extent that I have time to think about this. They are very committed to the Jackson community, moving here from Florida to invest, literally, in Jackson. The future: We, of course, are always available to discuss solutions for the future and to see if there is a way to work out the issues. You have to follow our user agreement.

Pick any house on that street and tell me the residents have never come out of their PRIVATE home after a drink or two and driven. I assume they're good people because I've only heard good things about them. Why does it matter who brought this up or why? Your entire argument is premised on the assumption that the plaintiffs merely want to overturn the City Council's allowing the Fairview to operate a restaurant. I was going to weigh in on this, but I would have taken two pages to get around to what you just said better anyway. No problem with the Sharps. And QB, you're way over the line about the opposition to the restaurant.

A good number of people told me they didn't know about his past when they had supported the inn in the first place until they read my comments about it. Any new word on what Barrett-Simon has been able to accomplish in her advocacy for the Fairview? 2. We're hooked. The inn's zoning classification allowed for "social gatherings," and the owners argued that serving dinner to guests who had made reservations fit that description. It is. fax: 601-510-9019 As far as I can see, there are good people on both sides, and ad hominem attacks are ridiculous. the trurans seem sympathetic in the article saying they "feel bad for the sharps." For me it doesn't matter what the plaintiffs' motives are and I certainly have nothing against the defendants; I ate at the Fairview for the first time Sunday for brunch.

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