IF YOU ARE AN EXISTING MEMBER: You can retrieve your a password for your account here: click here. I'm also putting in a full 12 pt cage. This page was generated at 10:53 PM. Come join the discussion about performance, production numbers, VIN decoders, modifications, troubleshooting, power adders, DIY tutorials, and more! Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, horsepower, tuning, build specifications, and more! In this video, Dave Zimmerman shows us how to install a set of through-the-floor subframe connectors. http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=293, http://buystifflers.com/1979-1993MustangFITSystem.aspx, http://www.griggsracing.com/pdfFiles/mfk2000wc.pdf, https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba69-galaxie-500, https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/baix-to-4sixzero, http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum485-bbr-s-83gt, http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forumuck-conversion, https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/batooth-and-nail, http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum-consolidation. ), SN rear disc swap w/Fox length Strange c clip elim. Ford Wants Police Departments Investigating The F-150 Lightning, Watch A Twin Turbo GT350 Make 1,001 Horsepower On The, Ford Releases Debut Date For Next-Generation 2024 S650, Push To Start Your Classic With IDIDITs New, QA1 Handles First Generation Mustang With Bolt-On Front, How To Fix Camber Complications After Lowering An S550, Big Oly returns to Baja at the NORRA Mexican, Carlisle Ford Nationals Poised To Break Attendance, Texas Cobra Club Strikes San Marcos For Annual Spring, This Street/Strip 56 Custom Has A Very Unique Ford, SEMA 2021: Optimas New Line Of Modern Yellow Top, SEMA 2021: Isky Racing Cams Drops New Solid Roller Bushing, SEMA 2021: Edelbrocks New Carb Is The Most High-Tech 4150, PRI 2021: The Driveshaft Shop Introduces Pro-Level, PRI 2021: WELD Racing Rounds Off 2021 With New RT-S, PRI 2021: Ultimate Headers For Fords 7.3-Liter Godzilla, Five Questions With Ford Performance Marketing Manager Rob, We Join Ford v Ferrari Movie Crew, Stunt Drivers At Daytona Rolex, Five Questions With Ford Performance Marketing Manager Jim, High-Performance Racing Fasteners: How ARP Fasteners Are, Brenspeed Shows Off Five GT350 Builds in the Works, Shop Tour: Shifting Into Overdrive With Performance, Video: Take A Tour Of How Ford 3-D Prints Shelby GT500, Power At Your Fingertips With The SCT GTX Tuner for S550, Taming The Dragon In A Bolt-On 2015 Mustang, Ford Muscle Digs Through Archives For Mustang, ICYMI: Ford Muscles Top Stories from March, ICYMI: Ford Muscles Top Stories from February, Ford Wants Police Departments Investigating The F-150 Lightning SSV, Watch A Twin Turbo GT350 Make 1,001 Horsepower On The Dyno, Ford Releases Debut Date For Next-Generation 2024 S650 Mustang, Spy Photos Of The New Ford 2023 Super Duty Truck, SEMA 2021: Turbosmarts Straight-Gate50 Is Redefining Wastegates, SEMA 2021: Maradyne Blows Us Away With New Jetstreme I and II Fans, SEMA 2021: Flaming River Microsteer Steers Us In the Right Direction. It would be a good idea if money permits to do it at the same time. I will keep that in mind though. Through the floor Wolfe connectors here. I'd be interested in seeing some pictures as well. Do it right, call Team Z Motorsports in Michigan and order a set of these. I have only seen one done that way and they were welded in and bolted through the sides as well ( a little overkill but with a 900hp mod motor I can understand it). Easier to drop the cage through the floor to weld the top. Pics of the Wolfe connector below. How to you make sure its square? As stated above I welded a triangular plate on top of the connector to which I mounted the main hoop of the roll bar. If I remember correctly installing them inboard of the front subframe will give them a straight shot back to the rear subframe. I was planning on having Maximum Motorsports full length sub frames welded to the bottom of the car but kinda figure I should just do it right the first time and have some through the floors done to get the most out of the modification. Im hoping to not need a cage for a couple years until my engine is built. My mustang has option one, how ever my big feet get caught on them especially when I am foot braking it at the starting line. thanks guys, thats what i wanted to know, i do plan on doing a cage eventually so ill plan to stick with the through the floors. Life is short. All times are GMT-8. 
Team Z Motorsports has a couple of subframe connector choices for 1979-2004 Mustangs, and its through-the-floor subframe connectors are the strongest available. they will how ever pop up in the backseat compartment. 
on the square tube you can cut it, we usually just cut 3 sides of the tube and weld it to get the proper alignment between the frame rails! 
I am sure your fab shop will do this but I am just throwing it out there in case. It wont be uncomfortable driving it at all. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. They're only slightly narrower. I liked the through the floor connector because I knew the car was going to evolve into a track car. 2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip! When Brian is not writing, you can find him at the track as a crew chief, doing freelance photography, or beating on his nitrous-fed 2000 Trans Am. 
The reasoning was to give a nice square mounting point to mount the ladderbar crossmember. I made mine using these pics from other forum. I used a competition engineering kit. All rights reserved. Zimmerman does an outstanding job explaining everything you need to know when it comes to installing a set of Team Z through-the-floor subframe connectors to make the job easier for the end-user. it will obviously be a stiffer ride but it is not going to make it uncomfortable. If you are building a STREET car I don't think you need them thru the floor.10 years ago( no pics) I built some for a 84 Bird out of 2x3.It was a LOT of work, but they gave me very solid platform and good places to mount the cage. Give it all it's got and don't look back!! Food for thought if you anticipate a longterm project. connectors subframe stifflers 1979
They were 1x2, with angle perpendicular to the tubing to attach two seat bolts to (I think it was the front seat bolts, not sure) As I recall they wrapped around the front of the attachment point for the LCA in the rear, and welded into the front subframe. hoonifox fordmuscle stables
I dont have any experience with the below connectors but I imagine the difference is subtle on a street car. I put a piece of plate across the top of the connector so that I could center the main hoop in the car. Through-the-floor subframe connectors do an outstanding job of tying the chassis together on a Mustang; the rigidity these subframe connectors provide ensures youre getting the most power to the ground by eliminating chassis flex. 1969 mustang FE gone, on hold but will return. Discussion in 'Suspension, Chassis and Tire Tech' started by gryphon68, May 28, 2007. on the fox body they are off from front to rear the rear frame rails being narrower, are you going to do 2x2 or 2x3? 2x2 will work for what you want to do. Cant imagine how the daily driving would any different between the two. Just make sure to move them back far enough to get a wrench and the nuts on the back of the tranny x-member brackets. A strong, safe platform to improve rigity and to mount your cage to. Okay guys im looking to have my local fabrication shop (Top End Fabrication) do some full length sub frame connectors in the next couple weeks and need some advice. Subframe connectors are a must-have modification for any vehicle that doesnt have a full frame under it and will be taken to the dragstrip. Easy way is to have a body shop put it on a rack and check it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectReefBlue, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Can I see some pictures of some fox mustangs with the sub-frame connectors that go into the floor board of the car. if you ever want to get the car certified, there needs to be a plate welded to the car and the tubing welded to the plate. That's the only thing I'm really worried about is comfort. Build your own custom newsletter with the content you love from FordMuscle, directly to your inbox, absolutely FREE!
Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er. These subframe connectors do require more effort to install than other styles, since they are run through the floor of the vehicle. 90 GT, 299" or is it????? I have always wanted to put SFC On my car but I have always worried about it not being square and making it worse. subframe mustang connector rear installation torque install box americanmuscle guide welded adapter above shows The car is my daily driver right now but will be hitting the track pretty frequently if I can help it. Okay thanks guys, the sub frames will be installed by a pro as I know the amount of work is a lot more, as far as the daily drivin part do the bars come up in the floor at your feet? does not twist like it used to the front end just comes up. A forum community dedicated to Ford big block owners and enthusiasts. Install is much more involved than the below the floor jobs. Fit is ok. The subframe connectors are anchored to the chassis via steel plates at the critical contact points. Hard way is to spend a day with plumb bobs, measuring tape, a flat floor, masking tape and room to measure out 3,4,5 right triangles. Yates headed, R-Block, Kooks Headers, Demon Carb, Cammotion Cam, Mighty Mite C4, 8" Nitrous Converter, Moser spool & axle package, 4.88s, MT28x10.5s, 5" windshield hood, Prostars, hopefully soon Zex perimeter plate. I went right for through floor frames too. Stock Block 408", TFS 11R 205, TFS EFI Carb R Intake, XFI 236HR, Tweecer, Faceplated TKO 500. 2 and there just a blade thickness one to kick it in and one to bring it down they are about 2 inches apart just after the bulk head at the end of the front subframe. the car is much stiffer. 2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012, First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A, 2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'. Just another thing to think about. https://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=25543.msg262568#msg262568, https://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=81946.0, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. i used 2x3 tubing for mine (pretty much standard) and the front section were you feet are,what most do is cut about an 1 1/2 out of the bottom of the tube to make it sit right down in the old sub frame and sit flush with the floor. I had underfloors on my '90 from kenny brown in Indy. Spending his childhood at different race tracks around Ohio with his familys 1967 Nova, Brian developed a true love for drag racing. As an Amazon Associate, Driven 2 LLC earns from qualifying purchases. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm thinking that some 2x3 box tubing would be the way to go. I bought some of the regular sub frame connectors to weld in but honestly they don't look very sturdy to me. 85 Capri 310 , 10.1cr , solid roller cam 608"/614"x 242*/248* AFR 205 heads , 1 3/4" headers , super victor intake , holley 750DP , MSd ignition system and NOS 150 shot . I also got his "jacking rails" which were welded into the seam of the rocker to the floors, then connected those to the 1x2 of the SFC. yeah, but I've still never had any issues. I prefere this concept, except I'd carry the triangulation all the way to the joint: Damn, tree'd on the Griggs installation instructions. reminds me of vega or subaru (old subaru). You just have to angle em a little bit.
as 460 said it makes for a much better mounting point for a cage. Zimmerman has helped build countless Mustangs in his shop so he knows what it takes to set up one of these installations the right way. Regardless of what else you do - run a 1x1 tube along the hem flange of the rocker / floor - it will make jacking up the car from that day forward a non issue - no more dented rockers, etc. JavaScript is disabled. Team Zs through-the-floor subframe connectors use thick square-steel material for the main parts of the connectors and outriggers. A forum community dedicated to Ford Mustang owners and enthusiasts. 2022 Power Automedia. night and day difference from stock. I went with the wolfe bar so it was a direct fit. In the video, he notes that you must remove the cars interior, protect any glass from sparks, and make sure the vehicle is perfectly level. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.429-460.com/t2428-fox-body-sub-frame-connectors, http://www.429-460.com/t8945-in-car-sub-frame-connectors-for-a-fox-mustang, 4x4's, Pullers, Crawlers and other HD rides, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada.
I have been strongly advised to use those instead of the bolt on or weld on that go underneath. you cant just but the tube up to the flimsy stock sheet metal. There seems to be as many ways to install subframe connectors on a FOX platform (mustang) as there are flavors of beer. axles. Team Z includes extra square-steel material in case your Mustang has larger tolerances than the majority of the cars that were built. thanks again for all the help, Aside from chassis stiffening reasons, I really like my max motors full length connectors because they give me a safe and quick spot to jack the car up anywhere along the frame rail.
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