Is there an equivalent trailhead app for the rear shock? The Super Deluxe Coil Select+gets everything found on the Ultimate, including signature graphics and BoXXer Red colourways but it employs an RT damper. I will ask the mechanic at the next 50 hour service to attempt to sort it out. Simply follow the steps in the video or listed below.Note that recommended settings are suggested starting points, not rigid values that will work for every rider. Shit ay that makes sense but the reason I feel like Im losing air when I remove it is because I pump it up to a certain pressure, remove the pump, put it back on and its miraculously 30psi less.
Scroll down or hit the link below to jump directly to that shock. As you fine tune the way your Druid feels on the trail, wed recommend making small and incremental adjustments of 2 PSI. I suppose for now I'm cool with that but I might just sus out whether it had tokens already in it as another poster has suggested may be the case. 
It's built with an increased bushing overlap and Maxima Plush Dynamic Suspension Lube to reduce friction.
The recommended settings as shown below are clicks counted from closeduse this chart to determine your baseline settings. *The DPX2 comes with a 0.4 volume reducer in the air canister. Hey, I'm trying to dial in the sag on my rear shock, Rockshox Deluxe on a new Commencal Meta AM. The sag is easy enough to set but I am really not sure on a starting setting for the rebound. The recommended settings as shown below are clicks counted from closeduse this chart to determine your baseline settings.
Just find a shortish section of trail that you can session, start with no rebound damping to see how that feels then add a few (say 4) clicks and ride it again. In answer to your chainstay question, there are various shock eye to eye and stroke lengths, this coupled with various chainstay lengths and different suspension linkage types causing various compression curves (falling rate, linear, rising rate) and final compression ratio make it much harder to give you a ballpark rebound setting to achieve the desired out the box rebound settings. The recommended settings are counted from the closed position as the starting point.
This suspension calculator will help you optimize your suspension settings for your riding weight. Put it in the middle then one or two clicks either side, whatever feels better go in that direction 1 click at a time. If you are not achieving full travel, you may want to try lowering your PSI.
For reference there should be 10 clicks from open. This is your sag measurement. A shock pump that screws onto the valve shouldnt be losing any air. I've tried getting more air in to get the sag down to 20% but I think I end up losing a little bit of air when I wind the pump off the valve. Thanks. It's on 40 hours now so not far off! volume reducers/tokens sounds like they will help you, they made the air spring more progressive. If you feel like the shock or fork is packing down, or not fully recovering from successive hits, speed up the rebound by turning the red knob 1-3 clicks counter-clockwise. Before Treks patented ABP, rear suspension while braking was thought to be a myth. Youll probably find around 3 clicks where you get something like this critical damping. off-road.cc Editorial and general enquiries: info@off-road.cc Add air if the o-ring traveled too far.
Turn the [red] Rebound adjuster and the [blue] Compression adjuster all the way to the closed (full clock- wise) position. Ive got a 2019 canyon spectral cf7.0 and am trying to get my suspension sorted. Now youre set up, but remember that this is only a starting point. Reset the 230psi, check the %sag. Lets get started. Conveniently the Float X has numbers on the dials that refer to how many clicks you are from closed. It uses the very same chassis as the Super Deluxe model housing an R damper and comes with an extra-large bottom-out bumper to stave off those harsh hits.
Upon measuring the sag (indicated by the o-rings position), Fox recommends 15-20% sag (22-30mm of stanchion insertion). Similarly to that shock, this one isn't available aftermarket. It does make me wonder with all these expensive suspension options how many people get round to bothering setting them up properly, a market waiting to tapped , how many people get round to bothering setting them up properly, a market waiting to tapped. The IFP has pressurised air in it, that stops oil from cavitation. This one is priced at 482. 11. Turn the 3-position High Speed Compression lever to the fully OPEN mode. remove some psi if you dont bottom out, add psi if you bottom out to easy. 13. This is easy to figure out by simply riding off a kerb at the side of a quiet road while sat down (your bum needs to stay in contact with the saddle) youll feel the rear compress and rebound. any bike welcome as long as its dj or street.
once you have this setting down, check to see how much sag you have, if you have less then 20%, you may want to add volume spacers, try to keep the sag in the rear more then the sag in the front, helps keep the bike lower in rear on large hits, keeping the front higher for ability to steer out of the hit. I want to say I'm put in up around 270psi maybe and got around 25% sag. Before further adjustment can be made, turn all compression and rebound adjusters to closed (full clockwise) position. For the Druid, we recommend 35% sag (or 19mm of shaft insertion). You will run this almost fully open/ fast as well. Along with Maxima plush damping fluid, the Deluxe Coil gets 20 clicks of rebound adjustment.
Finally, the R model Monarch drops the compression adjustment. It is important that you get on top of this. We like Nukeproof Megas and Gigas. Next up, theDeluxe Select+gets everything that's on the Ultimate model apart from the independent rebound and compression adjustments and it swaps the RCT damper for its RL counterpart.
Stai cercando nel sito Trek Bicycle United States / English. I hadnt thought about the effect that frame geometry would have on the required rebound. This one gets premium graphics and Maxima Plush Dynamic Suspension Lube. This XC focussed shock uses an RL damper with a DebonAir air spring and RockShox's Counter Measure tech which reduces the breakaway forces to almost nothing, improving small bump sensitivity. Go for a ride and adjust. Mechanics Quick Question Thread [Ask Questions Here], Trickstuff Maxima Brakes - Users/Buyers Guide, Dirt Jump Bikes. Visualizza il sito web Trek Bicycle del tuo Paese qui. The Monarch RLgets a DebonAir air spring and a 2-position compression adjustment, as does the RT model.
The SIDLuxe Ultimate is designed for lightweight and speed. For your weight the air pressure will be a bout 100psi if properly equalised. After a few rides, re-check your set-up by measuring the distance between the o-rings and the shock body or fork lowers.
I've heard you want to set the shock to like 20-30% sag.
I know its for their shocks but it might help you learn about the different settings and what to look/think about while riding.
Again, the recommended settings are counted from the closed (clockwise towards Slow) position. Finishing up the two-model range is the SIDLuxe Select+ which also gets an EL damper but loses the DebonAir air spring. e. find a fun trail to ride that you enjoy with stunts you like to do often, add air until you only bottom out on hard hits on the trail. Front suspension forks and rear shocks both require simple adjustments to work best for a particular rider, so this information is relevant to riders of both hardtail and full suspension mountain bikes. sag is not a great measurement tool, especially as you are at a larger weight then most. If all OK ride the bike, but check the. Using a 3mm hex turn the [gold] Rebound adjuster and the [blue] Compression (LSC) adjuster all the way to the closed (full clockwise) position. Non preoccuparti. This one isn't available aftermarket. Just an excuse to show a bunch of really cool looking stuff. 7. As long as you're not exceeding the shock's max pressure, just keep bumping up the air pressure until you get the sag where you want it (which may well be ~30%). You're not losing air when you take the pump off unless your pump is defective. Singletrack Road Trip Organic Unisex T Shirt - Distressed, Singletrack Club Ride Detour Shirt Khaki Cayenne, Premier Partners for Singletrack issues & exclusive subscriber perks, Metcheck MTB Weather Forecasts At A Glance. Who uses knee pads for light trail riding? Set the compression damping to open by turning the blue knob on your fork all the way counter-clockwise, and the blue lever on your shock counter-clockwise. it's a great point, but overly complex. The squirt of air you hear is just the air in the hose of the pump decompressing as you detach it. RockShox is quiet about the damper model on this one but it comes with an increased rebound damping range, a better lockout feel, and lower compression forces at high speeds. Don't post your bike. First off, the Deluxe Ultimate is the range-topping Deluxe model that's kitted with a DebonAir+ air spring, a castled bottom-out bumper, and independent Low-SpeedRebound and Compression adjustments.
Use that setting as a basis for first ride. Next, there's the Super Deluxe Select+ that gets everything seen on the Ultimate model aside from the RC2T damper. Finally, the Super Deluxe Coil Select comes sorted with an R damper and it lacks the compression switch. I think I had more than 250+ psi in my Deluxe Select + for 30 percent sag. Unit #1 - 4640 Cumberland Rd. Volume reducers? should go down up down to sag.
12. This shock drops the compression lever and apart from the downgraded R damper, itgets everything else found on the Select + shock. so 25% rear go for 20% front give or take. Check the gauge, and adjust the PSI again if necessary. I settled on 4 clicks from fully open. - Tune: C20 R20- The TTX2Air comes with a 8,000mm3 volume reducer in the air canister. Wanted - Rockshox Deluxe Select+ or similar. Arguably one of the best forks in its class, the Grip2 damper and the 150mm travel Fox 36 chassis are a heady combination for the trails the Druid was designed for. Can anyone suggest solutions? As per your rear shock, correctly setting up your forks is paramount to optimize performance on the trail. This can be adjusted to suit your preferences and to either hold in its firm setting more frequently, or not so frequently. DT Swiss launch a new fork! What PSI are you running to get 30% on that Meta? You will run this almost fully open and you can reference the chart below for a base starting point. This seems incredibly high - on my previous bike it was only 170 psi. With so many amazing shocks on the market today, we determined (after much testing) that the Fox DPX2 shock was the perfect fit for the Druid. It benefits from independent high and low-speed compression adjustments along with the DebonAir+ air spring. A typical rider will want the rear suspension to be critically damped as a starting point, and can tune for personal preference from there. From there, turn the red knob counter-clockwise the recommended number of clicks. for each spacer you add it will make the shock harder to bottom out at the same psi. Hello? What rebound settings do you use Im 90kg riding weight, 30% sag, medium tech rider. Please adjust accordingly and refer to the chart below for Foxs recommended starting point for PSI - always cycle the fork through its travel a few times whenever a change is made to the air pressure. It was last done in September last year. You will notice that this shock is run with open/fast for the majority of rider weights. Rear shocks are different in that different suspension designs act upon the shock differently. As the range-topper, this shock gets signature graphics and a BoXXer Red coil colourway. Turn the HSC lever to the fully OPEN position [counter-clockwise]. Sag is not really super important, feel is. Can anybody hear me? Contact UsPrivacyForum RulesClassifieds RulesLink RemovalLogin/cookie issues?Newsletter SettingsAdvertising, Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 15 total), default rebound settings rock shox super deluxe. This shock will set you back 385. .possibly, but they publish recommended settings for front forks? After a typical ride, the o-ring distance should match the specified stroke for your shock, or the travel for your fork. Advertising and commercial: sales@off-road.cc, Mountain bike, bikepackingand gravel bikes. 9.
you will be looking for 25% but 20% is more than fine.
If the o-ring is traveling too far, or sliding off the shock shaft, you may want to increase your PSI. Just curious as I weigh close to the same as you and have the same shock on a different (more progressive) frame. There's an easy access lever that switches the shock from Open or Threshold settings (firm or locked). However I can find no equivalent default settings for the rear shock super deluxe rct. Everything else matches the top model but this one isn't available aftermarket. 30% is just a recommendation. Using all of your travel isn't bad as long as you are not slamming it down to the bottom.
Youd almost certainly need different settings with the same shock fitted to a single-pivot Orange Five and a multi link bike like a Santa Cruz. I guess for a give frame, manufactures canyon in this case could provide suggested values, Ibis does provide for their bikes, in their beautifully-drawn owners manual, https://assets-ibiscycles-com.s3.amazonaws.com/files/Setup-Guides/Ibis_Owners_Guide_Rev_L_0321_WEB_DL.pdf. I've been able to get enough air in it for like 30% but I feel like I'm getting through a fair bit of my travel on even fairly light riding. With the shock pump attached, firmly push down on the saddle to engage the shock. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Its entirely possible that youre losing air when unhooking a floor pump- shocks are very small volume and inflated to extremely high psi. Couldnt tell you the sag though as you cant tune suspension with sag.
I'll echo other posters, put some bands in the shock if it's using too much travel, although 70-80% shock travel on a normal trail ride wouldn't bother me personally unless it was a very flat and smooth trail. This has been a great starting point.
Snowshoe has only hosted 3 DH World Cups, yet its delivered more drama and memorable moments than most other venues! the suspension compresses, rebounds past sag point then settles to say point. Rockshox Deluxe Select+ to Super Deluxe Ultimate.
Turn the red dials on your fork or shock fully clockwise to the closed position.
Which shows how this bike has been seriously under-used for the last 5 months! Rounding up the Super Deluxe air range is the Select model. Turn the [red] Rebound adjuster and the [black] Compression (LSC) adjuster all the way to the closed (full clockwise) position. Thanks very much for all the replies and advice! Quality, lightweight cargo cage that adds versatility to your ride. Proper suspension set-up is a crucial component of getting the best performance out of your mountain bike. 6. What are you doing to prolong bearing life? Prototype frameset features wireless-only design and RockShox fork, The brand says new frame protection is super strong, flexible and easy to install. If it's something from the best mountain bike forks that you're interested in check out the RockShox fork range - your guide to all the models, details and specs.
The Deluxe CoilSelect brings much of the Super Deluxe Coil's goodness to a more compact and wallet-friendly package. Please reference the chart below for your recommended [air pressure] starting point in PSI. Our sister site for e-bikes ebiketips.co.uk, Your complete guide to the RockShox range of rear shocks for mountain bikes, Coil and air spring qualities in one package, Innovative, simple to set up and utilising both coil and air, 29er only range is fully revised with addition of a 35mm chassis option, Updates incude brand new DebonAir air spring, RockShox Recon Gold RL Solo Air Forks - Boost - Matte Black - 140mm, Matte Black, Maxxis Aggressor MTB Wide Trail Tyre (EXO-TR) - Black - Folding Bead, Black, Five Ten Impact Pro MTB Shoes - Core Black - UK 7.5, Core Black, Bell Sixer MIPS Helmet - Matte Black 20, Matte Black 20, DT Swiss EX 1501 SP 30mm Rear Wheel - Black - 142mm SRAM XD, Black, Giro Chamber II Off Road Shoes - EU 46 Dark Shadow/Black 20, Endura Hummvee Reversible Flipjak Jacket - Black, Black, Schwalbe Magic Mary Evo Super Trail MTB Tyre - Black - 29", Black, Bell Super Air R Full Face Helmet - Matte Gloss Red-Grey 20, Matte Gloss Red-Grey 20, Hope EVO Mountain Bike Crankset (Spiderless) - Black - 68-73mm, Black, Solid, useful and dependable though the valve core remover is a bit of a faff to sue, Plus all the latest tech highlights and reviews from the week, WCS Zeta GX wheels are built around trouble-free performance and play nicely with wide-tyre options, A closer look at gravel bike geometry and understanding how it differs from road bikes, Three days of glorious gravel, single tracks, views and amazing people. I assume that the rebound rate must be related to air pressure in the same way the front fork is and rock shox publish settings for the fork, why not the rear shock? This shock isn't available aftermarket. Please use the compact digital shock pump (this was designed to fit into most back and hip packs) that came with your bike to make these adjustments on the trail. The Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate is priced at 530. Sign up as a Singletrack Member and you can leave comments on stories, use the classified ads, and post in our forums, do quizzes and more.
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Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Vancouver, BC - 2022 Transition Patrol Fox Factory/XT raw. Coming with laser etched high and low speed rebound and compression adjustments, this shock also gets Counter Measure tech. Through a Bluetooth connection and special gubbins found on the top of the fork, shock, and inside the crank spindle, Flight Attendant senses the kind of terrain you're riding and adjusts the suspension's overall compression to offer what it thinks is the best setting for the given situation. A tutti capita di sbagliarsi. The Vivid Air R2C is designed to offer the supple feel of a coil shock but with the adjustability and weight savings of an air shock. Different pump? JavaScript is disabled. *For more information on the Fox 36 fork. If thats a bit dead feeling then back off 2 clicks, if its still lively then add 2,then when you get close to something that feels OK just go 1 click either way a and within 5 or 6 runs youll be sorted. If you feel a bucking sensation from your shock, or a pogo stick sensation from your fork, slow the rebound by turning the red knob 1-3 clicks clockwise.
It's now just 9 months old. Under full compression a low compression ratio and high compression ratio (wheel movement to shock movement) will act quite differently. Press J to jump to the feed. To set the sag, push the shock o-ring all the way to the shock body and carefully sit on the bike wearing your riding kit and measure how far it has moved. I will try that but the issue of requiring high air pressure in the Rockshox Deluxe has been here since new. And we're really enjoying testing coil shocks at the moment for a group test in the mag. Go for a short test ride with plenty of bumps. off-road.cc is dedicated to bringing you the best coverage of all off-road riding, Our sister site for road bikes road.cc RockShox fork range - your guide to all the models, details and specs. RockShox fork range - your guide to all the models, details and specs, Your complete guide to the Fox Shox fork range, Your complete guide to Shimano mountain bike drivetrains. As far as the best rear shocks formountain bikes go, the RockShox rear shock range from SRAM comprises options for full-suspension cross-country race machines, trail bikes and downhill brawlers. I guess for a give frame, manufactures canyon in this case could provide suggested values. At the base level of the air-sprung Deluxe range, the Deluxe Selectdrops the compression position lever but benefits from everything else found on the Select+ model. Note that the rebound adjuster can get stiffer as you close it. .I will be checking the sag more regularly now I'm more aware of this problem. Just play with the settings until you get the feeling of compress, rebound past sag, and settle to sag point. (Over damped compresses then rebounds and settles directly to sag point, under damped compresses, rebounds past sag point, then compresses past sag and repeats until it finally settles after a few cycles). There's then Maxima Plush suspension fluid and it gets Ultimate foil graphics and a SID Blue colourway is available. It's then finished off with Maxima Plush damping fluid. Fresh Goods Friday 611: The Skeleton Crew Edition, New Nukeproof coil options from EXT, FAST & PUSH, DH World Cup Rd 6 Snowshoe Preview & how to watch, This topic has 14 replies, 10 voices, and was last updated. Reviews, buying advice and news.
If that's not enough, there's a castled bottom-out bumper. Does rockshox publish any equivalent suggested rebound settings for the rear shock I cant seem to find anything. Rules on first page. Mount the bike with a friend holding you up, or lean against a wall.
Transition Patrol, Scout, Sentinel, Spur & Suppressor, Giddy Up & SBG Post your bike and discuss here! If your measured sag is not within 2-4mm of the recommended sag, use your shock pump to adjust the PSI. Here, we'll run you through each of the models in theRockShox rearsuspension rangecovering areas such as compatibility andspecifications as well as idenitfying which model is best suited to your needs. The Super Deluxe Ultimate is RockShox's flagship shock that benefits from the RC2T damper. To set the sag, push the shock o-ring all the way to the shock body and carefully sit on the bike wearing your riding kit and measure how far it has moved. so now that you have added volume spacers you can take out some psi from the shock, allowing you to have more sag. - For more information on the Fox Float X shock. Fitment question: New Fox DPS to replace Rockshox Deluxe Select. Apart from that, it gets everything found on the Select+ model. Please reference the chart below for your starting points. For full details on this shock as well as useful setup guides, please follow the link to the PUSH website. We always start off with 30% sag and then a 3rd of clicks from slow/tortoise Just got back from a ride, gave it a bit of a nudge, jumped some gaps, took some bigger and faster drops and still only reached about 80%. You must log in or register to reply here. For your weight the air pressure will be a bout 160psi if properly equalised. Regardless, to maximize performance, it is critical to spend some time correctly setting your shock up for your weight and riding style. You can choose one of these as your starting point and adjust from there on a typical trail for your preferred riding to tune it into exactly where you want it. You'll still be pushing against this. In the end, it means better flow for a better ride. Is there anybody there? For example, while you're climbing, it'll firm up the suspension for better pedalling and as you roll into a descent, it'll automatically open up the suspension for the best performance downhill.
The Deluxe Select+ isn't available aftermarket. Problems? If you like comfortable riding, you can run it at lower pressure. set the rebound by riding off a kerb slowly and watching the movement. To optimize performance further, turn the [red] Rebound adjuster all the way to the closed (full clockwise) position. Never been far off with that as a starting point, Usually ok or a click either way to fine tune.
Measure the distance in millimeters between the o-rings and the seals. Sexiest AM/enduro bike thread. 10. Use the Trek Suspension Calculator to find the recommended rebound setting. *OPEN Mode Adjust (LSC) for Performance Elite only*For more information on the Fox DPX2 shock. There's an increased bearing overlap, 20 clicks of rebound adjustment, and separate and independent Open and Threshold pistons. Instead, this one runs the RT damper. - Tune: LLC- The Super Deluxe comes with 1 volume reducer in the air canister. All material Farrelly Atkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA1 1JB. Please use the compact digital shock pump (this was designed to fit into most back and hip packs) that came with your bike to make these adjustments on the trail. This shock does NOT fit on size Small or Medium Druid frames. Please refer to the chart below and note that these are Foxs base settings and a great starting point prior to making further incremental adjustments to suit individual tastes and needs.Please also note that both compression settings are based on rider preference, but that both rebound settings are air pressure dependent and may need to be adjusted if the PSI is adjusted. 2. Looks like you're in . Use the Trek Suspension Calculator to find your ideal sag measurement in millimeters. If you like a more responsive rear end, you pump that bitch up.
Leaning the bike to one side helps with this. A cycling community enthusiastic about mountain biking and all things related. The mass exodus continues. do you mean that different chainstay lengths will effect the rebound required?
Flight attendant is found on just the Super Deluxe Ultimate Flight Attendant shock for now. 130-160mm travel from the F535 ONE, Video First Look: DT Swiss F535 One 160 mountain bike suspension fork, RockShox release new family of 2021 SID cross-country forks, RockShox brings host of updates to fork range for 2020 including Yari, Lyrik, Pike and a new DebonAir air spring, A crash sensor, airy gravel shoes, high-flow valves and more, Ritchey unveils alloy WCS Zeta GX gravel wheelset, Gravel bike geometry: everything you need to know, Gravel events: Hotchillee London to Paris, SRAM eTap AXS x Ribble Gravel Ti spotted at Grinduro, Muc-Off introduces frame protection for mountain bikes. so am I right in assuming that even if I'm running at the 30% sag, with tokens installed, i'd still be less likely to chew all my travel because the shock is stiffer at the end of its stroke? The recommended settings are counted from the closed position [as the starting point]. Using a 3mm allen key, turn the Low Speed Compression (LSC) adjuster all the way to the closed (full clockwise) position.
We'll run you through everything you need to know about therange from the Deluxe and Super Deluxe to the fabledMonarch, plus coil and air versions, too. Front forks are fine the trail head app provides some good default settings for air pressure and rebound clicks. 5. My weight is about 70kg. The Vivid R2C is designed especially for downhill racing through to extreme freeride.
which is why racers can run 10% sag in the front and very high psi compared to an average mortal.
I'm a big guy, 100kg/220lbs.
Remember that individual preference and ride style are important factors in finding the suspension setting that works for you. Turn the lock-out lever to the fully OPEN position (pointing towards the shock body). Im just trying to get to grips with suspension settings. To view this video please enable JavaScript, and consider upgrading to a web browser that, SRAM RockShox Super Deluxe Knocking Sound, Good (used) AM/Enduro bikes for 6'5" mx rider with ~$3k budget, Chromag Rootdown & Surface (and maybe Primer) Builds, The Sexiest AM/FR/Enduro Hardtail Thread (Please read the opening post). Use the bleed valve to remove air if it did not move far enough. Carefully dismount without further compressing the suspension. The Deluxe Coil Select isn't available aftermarket. For the Druid, we recommend 35% sag (or 19mm of shaft insertion). Cliff Richard has taken everybody on a summer holiday.
both issues you describe suggest the shock is not equalisedalthough the drop in air pressure reading suggests it is doing that by itself albeit gradually. Then with compression set wide open and rebound on full fast inflate the shock and cycle it every 10/15 psi 5 times. The recommended settings as shown below are clicks counted from closeduse this chart to determine your baseline settings. Thatll be the shockwiz just plug it in and itll tell you everything you never needed to know about your shock settings. It's also compatible with RockShox's TwistLoc and OneLoc remote lockout switches. Much like the forksthis shock gets an increased bushing overlap to boost small bump performance and grip.
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