One could argue that, though. Detroit couldnt trade him for an old jock now. So he still would not have been a Super Two. The Watchlist: Spencer Strider, Brandon Drury, AJ Puk - FantasyPros The 2029 option comes with a $5MM buyout, which is factored into the guaranteed portion of the contract. "EXTENDED @Braves have signed RHP Spencer Strider to a six year contract extension worth $75M. Hard throwing pitchers get seriously injured a lot. Hard to see that from a FO willing to let Freddie walk and who have Vaughn Grissom, a natural SS, ready to go. Not two years. Be the first one to comment on this story. The alternative is not extending anyone and going to find TOR (top of rotation) pitching on the free agent market where the failure rate is MUCH higher partially because the age is so much higher, along with the rate of pay. 2nd year $14.75 mm, GM of the year imo. Strider has been significantly better than Harvey so far. The move is retroactive to Sept. 21 and Strider has not pitched since last Sunday. If thats the case, how do you justify to Max Fried that hes only making $22.5M through his first 5 years in the league? Its still a win for both player and team, but the glut of long-term deals does inflate the Braves luxury ledger more quickly than a year-by-year approach would. MLB, Minor, College and summer league baseball stats along with biography, draft info, salary,transactions, awards and more! Since 2019, Plus, he didn't love being so young and already dependent on medication for daily life. I feel bad for all of the players not being drafted because the owners have shortened the draft. Who caes about Story and Baez past anyway? They are off on a lot of things, feel free too look me up, the site owner hates me for calling him out. After an outstanding rookie season, Strider appears to be picking up right where he left off to kick off spring . Brilliant! If you dont catch it and cancel the extra comments before the edit button expires, it looks like youve repeated the same post. The league-average, for reference, is 29 percent. Jose Ramirez begs to disagree. Both Story and Baez are much better players. In 2023, Strider will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $1,000,000. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. Another pitiful troll comment from books. Spencer Strider Rumors & Injury Update | #65 - SportsOverdose Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. You are also assuming he doesnt fall off a cliff statistically like Trevor Rogers this year where he went from a 2.64 ERA to 5.47 ERA or for the analytical types he went from a 2.55 FIP (2021) to 4.36 FIP (2022). Now ask him why he comments as Pads Fans and BaseballIsLife! Its a let me pay you now and you cut me a discount later. They cant keep getting away with robbery forever. Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. Really? Its amazing how many people are just totally willing to ignore the possibility of injury or decline in performance despite the dozens and dozens of examples weve seen. The Mets and Braves won the same number of games in the season, and the same in number in October. They were wrong, clearly. The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. Braves dont even have enough to trade for a SS. But the Braves battled and leapfrogged the Mets in early October to win the division. Its all Monopoly money past a certain point and this core has dynasty potential. Who are the Braves going to play at SS the 25% plus of the time Correas on the bench w/his bad back? And so in that way, I don't feel any pressure. Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. Theyll probably lose even more money on those years than they gain with the discount on the one or two free agent years, which probably would only be worth $30M max per season even if everything goes mostly right for him. Peacock Sunday morning gamessome without announcers; Apple TV Fri night games). You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work. Yeah, if he ends up being average, its definitely an overpay. Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. Ill I know is Harvey dominated in playoffs and Strider just got lit up. I dont think you know what straw man means. Nothing disingenuous about that. Spencer Strider's net worth is $76,667,934. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. I disagree with this because the Mets basically played .600 most of the season. I mean this in total sincerity, if you love this deal, you should never manage a real team, let alone budget your own finances personally. However, he already has slightly more than a full year of service time. Neither Strider nor Harris II were ranked in the top 100 prospects by the media outlets that MLB is using to qualify rookies for increased service time and teams getting extra draft picks. ~$31M (Arb4). He has recorded 10 or more strikeouts in a game six times this season, including twice this month -- striking out 16 against the Colorado Rockies on Sept. 1, and 10 in his most recent start Sunday against the Phillies. I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season. He had a 5-2 record with a 4.71 ERA, allowing 53 hits, 38 walks, and 89 strikeouts. Rookie starter Spencer Strider set a Braves record with 16 strikeouts in eight dominant innings during a 3-0 win over the Rockies on Thursday night. Betting Picks; . Someone mentioned Max Fried as a comparison, but Fried barely pitched his first 2 seasons in the majors, and had only a small fraction of a season in 2020, and hasnt seen his last 2 arb awards in any case. Sure, but then what if in those 2 years he continues putting up league-high K-rates, gets Cy votes (or wins), AS selections that increases his value exponentially, if he even wants to extend at that point. Hes definitely Super Two. MLB Player Spencer Strider has $1 million dollar net worth as of 2022, image source; SportsTalk ATL.com. June 27, 2022 To Spencer Strider, there are two parts of his baseball life: "PTJ" and "ATJ." Pre-Tommy John and After Tommy John. The Mets won 101 games and tied the Braves for the division. Strider will be top 2 in ROY voting. Spencer Strider is on Instagram at spencerstrider. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! Doesnt make it a bad deal for the team, either. Join our linker program. MLB 4.05M subscribers Subscribe 3.1K Share 120K views 5 months ago Don't forget to subscribe!. You didnt just say Strider was better then Degrom and Bauer. Spencer Strider rumors, news and stories [Top 20+ latest articles] I cannot wait for the Braves/Phillies series to start in a few hours. Actually, I think the Braves are taking on more of the risk. Have to disagree that Baez and Story have more upside than Swanson at this point in their careers. Yeah Strider might get bonuses but it wouldnt be coming from the Braves, it would be coming from the league as a whole. They control his first two FA years for somewhere in the range of $40-50MM total, depending how aggressively you want to project his arb numbers and only one of the two years is even guaranteed. Will make luxury tax teams wary of him. Mets 6986: Three days at seasons end and 2.1 innings pitched by Strider in 2021. Strikeouts have the highest correlation with statistical fall off. I picked it as a horse race, with the Mets tending to fall apart thanks to an old rotation and an old team, that would have trouble down the stretch. Its possible but I wouldnt go as far as to say its likely. Which is probably why they didnt. You think that contract for Strider isnt a slap in the face to guys in that clubhouse? Being healthy doesnt make you as good. He was on the major league roster all season. Good luck finding someone who doesnt think hell get back to those heights at 25 years old. They played their home games at Truist Park (Park Factors: 114/116) where 3,129,931 fans witnessed their 2022 Braves finish the season with a .623 winning percentage. Name a team who hasnt had pitchers whove fallen apart. You cant because thats the nature of pitchingas DTD said above.. Braves obviously feel Striders an outlier in that respect. Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. Thats $47M making his free agent year more like $28M with a $22M option. He was a big reason why the Braves had the fifth-best ERA in the league. I didnt know what he meant. His salary will jump to $20 million in '26 and then rise to $22 million for both of the next two seasons. He actually has only three days in 2021, so hell be close to the bottom of his class. Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. Long-term extensions do not preclude a player from getting those bonus pool dollars pre-arbitration. Their window didnt change with this signing. Spencer Strider is still a rookie in the Atlanta Braves, but he's got the potential to become a professional. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. All of this assumes he basically pitches like this year (not a full season, but elite performance) going forward. The six-year guarantee buys out Striders final two pre-arbitration seasons, all three arbitration years and what would have been his first free-agent season. The Braves have always gotten the day slots. Swanson 11.2 WAR. Early Years of Spencer Strider If Spencer doesnt get any better than he currently is, hes still an ace. Speak for yourself. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising. Yum, yum, peach juice flowing, baby. No I said youre disingenuous because youre trying to use the 2 1/3 ML inning pitched by Strider as a full season comp to Harvey. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Braves put RHP Strider on IL with oblique strain, Scherzer tries to test pitch clock limits, gets balk, Jays' Guerrero to miss WBC with inflamed knee, Rangers, LHP Smith agree to 1-year, $1.5M deal, 7 Cubs combine for 1st spring no-no since 2017, Jays 'playing it safe' after Guerrero tweaks knee, PitchCom-tipping: Loud device leaks Twins calls, Eflin's first start after $40M deal impresses Rays. Looking more immediately down the line, the Braves already have $153MM on next years payroll and nearly $110MM on the 2024 payroll. eligible. Conversely, How about them Mets? The Braves dont seem to pay for peak seasons from post-prime age players, especially not at SS, which is about the easiest position to put a cheap, 2 WAR floor under, given fielding peaks in players early 20s. There is no amount of rationalizing that can excuse that. But if he is what it looks like he could be, its a steal. If they would have waited to sign him for two years, it wouldve made less than a $10M difference in his contracts at most, but it would have given the team an extra $20M to spend before hitting the cap. The lowest the cutoff has been since 2009 is 2.115. Typical cutoff is around 125-145 days into the season! Strider earned his first and only win of the season on the final day of the season while pitching in relief for the Mets. Win win for both sides. Salary, Earnings Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Hes going to get over paid by somebody. early opt out year, incentives based on GG, SS, ASG, MVP votes. I know the first few years here are cheap, but still . Gotta love it. Except theyre going up against the Yankees time slots. Story 16.2 WAR Hes most likely looking at something similar but a little less than what Bogaerts signed for. Baez 14.5 WAR Players dont sign team friendly contacts because they are happy where they are(Jose Ramirez disagreeS. The remaining $20-25M will be shared with the rest of the guys who arent arb. By 9:30 a.m. I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. A contract representing mutual respect is a good thing. Spencer Strider was born in Columbus, Ohio on October 28, 1998. Even if you assume he will get less than Soto for whatever reason, then $7+mm, $14+mm, $22+mm, and $30+mm is extremely reasonable. Lots and lots and lots of people that dont realize what being in the top 2 of ROY voting means for service time. Javascript is required for the selection of a player. Olson can go either way, I think. It is for someone that age. His service time was at 2 years and 49 days and he did not qualify for Super 2. Shewmake is about ready though and they could sign a veteran cheap to platoon with him or just keep Dansby and use Shewmake as trade bait. Born: Some thoughtful Dodgers guys on here too. 4th year $30+ MM Beginning in '26, his salary will rise to $20 million, and it will rise to $22 million for the next two seasons. By all the offensive players Im assuming youre only referring to Harris? They will have their hands full if they get past the Phillies in the NLDS. The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. Overall, Strider broke out with 131 2/3 innings of 2.67 ERA ball and a 38.3% strikeout rate that paced all big leaguers who pitched at least 100 innings. His arbitration would have been in line with the highest ever. Reading through this thread I think most people are missing a huge point. They are the agents that rep him. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. I rather prefer people dont respect the Braves. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. What it means is you get credited with a full year regardless of the actual number of days you spent on the roster and are affirmatively NOT a Super Two because you were given a full year of service time. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). Be patient, dont retype your message, it will there in a minute, I think when this kid told the media after a loss to the Mets that they got cheap, bloop hits and were luckythen follows it up with well see how they are in October, spoke volumes on his make up and confidence. He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. Click on the different category headings to find out more and change our default settings. . Draft Does he love ATL to the tune of forgoing, say, $50 million? He'll be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to . I feel great, Strider said. Rather pay him instead of 330 or whatever to Cole. The Yankees seem to be possibly the least fan-friendly franchise in baseball. Signed thru 2028, 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option, Service Time (01/2023): 1.003 Inigo Montoya: You keep using that term, Super Two. It doesnt mean what you think it means. Super Two only applies when they have at least approximately 2/3 of a year of service time but less than a full season to where the team gets almost seven years of control (like the infamous Kris Bryant example) instead of slightly over six as in Striders case. How much do you think 2 seasons of an ace in his prime would cost, when you dont have to buy his decline years in order to get the heart of his career? Spencer Strider is still a rookie for the Atlanta Braves, but he has the potential to advance to the major leagues. Before joining MLB, he was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 and later missed the . The league would never agree to that. If Strider is willing to take an extension now, he should be just as willing to do so again after another great year or two. However, there is also a non-zero chance he gets it between 25 and 29 years old, which makes it more like 50-75% likelihood he could need TJ surgery, again removing the benefit of a long-term deal. Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: Baez and Story are declining. You could risk buying the ticket at the ball game, but it comes with a 10% day-of-purchase fee. The point of early extensions is to create financial flexibility, not to lock yourself into just a few core players. Lol at a Met fan claiming another teams farm system pitcher turns into.garbage. Say hello to the countless Met pitchers that have done exactly that. Atlanta enters Saturday having lost three straight and is 2 games back of the New York Mets for first place in the NL East. In the past couple of years, they built a brand new stadium and spring training facility. @bhambrave If you dont know what Super Two means dont try to talk about which players are or arent one. Thats not the point Banjo Billy, If hes not willing to extend again in a year, well awww shucks! Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. His third career outing was his most dominant at the Major League level as Strider's strikeouts came on fastballs clocked at 99.2, 100.3, 100.3, 99.8 and 99.8 mph. if they waited another year or two like you say, none of this would be possible with the Braves payroll. You sound like you have a community college education in accounting. Au contraire it is you who needs to check their info. He will finish next year with exactly TWO FULL YEARS OF SERVICE!! Thats the point but take it personal. While Strider was certainly pleased with the contract, the satisfaction he felt Monday extended to the fact that it appears he will be available to pitch in some role during the NLDS, which begins on Tuesday against the Phillies. Troll on books. He is definitely a Super Two candidate. Puts more AAV up front versus the higher luxury tax hit theyd eventually get if they went year to year through arbitration and/or later extensions. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. To an SP, well, it seems awfully risky. Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. Atlanta Braves Newsstand Transactions Spencer Strider, This makes 0 sense when the Braves controlled him for 5 years through arb anyway. The Braves got a significant discount on the 2 FA years. If he spent all of 2022 in the majors then assuming he doesnt get sent down at all next year he will have exactly 2 years of service time after 2023. Winning always helps too. He played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers, and was drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the fourth round of the 2020 Major League Baseball Draft. Good thing Shane Spencer wasnt on the Braves for 2 months this season, they wouldve given him $100m. Same. Baez currently is one of the worst hitting SS in MLB. To be totally honest, its not the least bit justifiable in any light. Lets say Strider goes to every All-Star game for the next 6 years, wins two Cy Young awards, finishes top 10 every other season, and avoids injury. Thats the reverse logic he was trying to calculate for, but that doesnt make sense! hflew: This is the first pitcher (out of the 6 players) theyve signed to an extension. $43m for nothing. Ok I quickly read up on the bonus pool from the new CBA. And that is adding in a discount for Atlanta. Sorry for the redundancy the message from the site was confusing. Spencer Strider Stats, Fantasy & News | MiLB.com From the official MLB site: To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. Hell outspend the Dodgers on infrastructure and payroll on his way to becoming the 3rd superteam in the NL. But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. If you agree, than stop knit-picking what everyone else says. Braves' Spencer Strider: Sharp to begin spring training Not me. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. I sure would like to have more of a track record than a single season. the Commanders released Wentz in a cost-cutting measure that will save Washington $26.17 million against the 2023 salary cap. If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. Have the Braves not noticed how many of their young pitchers have fallen apart after 2-3 years over the last two decades? So say he has an impingement, needs surgery, and turns into a 4 ERA SP who goes 120 innings a yearabout the worst case for a dominant 23 year old. The more Atlanta does this, the higher the likelihood that at least one of these extensions ends up not working out for the team in the long run. Here it is again, for your convenience. Yesterday the Atlanta Journal- Constitution published an interview with Braves chairman Terry McGuirk in which he describes how the Braves financial success, since the new stadium, has allowed them to keep increasing their payroll and he projects that this will continue in 2023 and beyond: https://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/how-the-braves-built-a-well-oiled-machine-that-could-be-here-to-stay/AMCXFCKNK5FATJ3WHTFDWRQCPY/. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. But if we are anywhere near the same cutoff after next season that we were after 2021, Strider will miss Super 2 status by 110 days roughly or almost 4 months of being on the roster. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Strider agreed to a six-year, $75 million deal that includes a $22 million option with a $5 million buyout for 2029. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. Strider will qualify for Super Two. And like I said before, he wouldnt even qualify for the ERA title. Strider kept it humble when discussing the extension with 'Bally Sports': The Atlanta Braves will begin their NLDS series against Bryce Harper and the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday. Spencer Strider Position: Pitcher Bats: Right Throws: Right 6-0 , 195lb (183cm, 88kg) Team: Atlanta Braves (majors) More bio, uniform, draft, salary info 65 Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Ill hang up and listen. He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! The Mets performance was more surprising than the Braves. Do they really think someone is going to go subscribe to Apple TV (one of The Worst of the streamers) just to watch? $200 per post at $10/CPM. 2 top 5 MVP finishes before his first 2 arb seasons. Are we going to have any money left for Dansby with all these signings? Notice I mentioned that those numbers were for 7 years of Swansons production? That is just temporary.
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