HS: We could maintain the previous setup as the track begins to smooth out, but it will keep a considerable amount of grip. 0000061760 00000 n 0000045332 00000 n 0000008387 00000 n 0000062809 00000 n 0000019758 00000 n 0000036174 00000 n Beyond the front end, Loomis said that the customer service made a real impression on him. brp1553. 0000026778 00000 n Time is a factor and we want to make positive changes that can be accomplished in a short period of time. If your car is tight on turn entry you have several good options. 0000021685 00000 n $17.64 / ea. 0000098806 00000 n Increase the Ackermann to 1 degree in 15 degrees of steering. One word of caution here: Don't. 0000022130 00000 n 0000015032 00000 n 0000064296 00000 n 0000057839 00000 n 0000070574 00000 n LF: 3 degrees positive 0000133235 00000 n 0000070783 00000 n One adjustment that helps turn exit without affecting the rest of the turn too badly is the right-front spring (although it will affect turn entry some). Loomis recommends going back and rechecking at least your stagger and chassis heights. The key, again, is to be sure to make changes based on your track conditions related to your type of car. 0000030020 00000 n 0000029555 00000 n Modified race vehicle designed to race in one of the categories of dirt modified racing series and classes include Super DIRTcar, IMCA, World of Outlaws and others. 0000013931 00000 n From then on, unless it is watered again, the track will begin to dry out and go through several phases of moisture content. 0000042399 00000 n We will take more air out of the tires, but not enough to cause them to roll over. $1. 312 0 obj<>stream 0000046206 00000 n Zero rear steer is essential now because our dirt car will handle much like an asphalt car. brp1553. 0000021134 00000 n 0000045307 00000 n New Tripoli, PA On the right front try a shock with more rebound and on the left rear, switch to one with more compression. 0000033076 00000 n 0000079290 00000 n brp9706. Can revalve. This does two things: It lowers the rear moment center and raises the car's CG. 0000073872 00000 n 0000075861 00000 n 0000043228 00000 n 0000023465 00000 n Minus Motor/shocks/trans/seat This is a very good straight car !! The tires can be changed to more of a street performance tread with slightly lower pressures. 0000023796 00000 n "A gentleman by the name of Joel Smith is the BMS representative at Close Racing Supply, and it has been his knowledge and willingness to work with me that has been invaluable. 0000044412 00000 n More than three decades later, the Canadian chassis manufacturer has become the industry leader with state-of-the-art equipment and facilities. 5. 0000025850 00000 n The difference is in the grip factor and mostly deals with the level of moisture present in the first inch or two of the surface material. 0000061222 00000 n 0000035445 00000 n Finally, you can also increase forward bite by increasing your rear weight percentage. Even if the handling problem on turn exit feels worse than any problem you have on turn entry, never work backwards. 0000043615 00000 n 0000042785 00000 n 0000040318 00000 n You can refer to the numerous Circle Track articles already written on these subjects. And the thing I did that helped me progress the fastest so that I was able to win the track championship-and a lot of people aren't going to want to believe this-is I purchased a chassis that is basically mass produced. We can observe cars that three-wheel off the turns and hear the throttle being cycled on and off. 0000019321 00000 n 0000028549 00000 n 0000056802 00000 n Granted, there are some so-called dirt tracks that are always oiled and maintained to the same grip. We will still need to drive the car straight and try not to soften the right-side springs too much yet. WATER-RESISTANTWIND-RESISTANTSTRETCHTONAL EMBOSSED O PATTERNREFLECTIVE DETAILS 0000049538 00000 n 0000060728 00000 n 0000031723 00000 n Shop Racing's Top Brands All in One Place, Teo Pro Car Mesh Flex Hat Available in S/M , L/XL. 0000133736 00000 n 0000055343 00000 n 0000074694 00000 n A typical setup might be: LF = 400; RF = 450; LR = 225 (400 pounds swing arm); RR = 275 (500 pounds swing arm); 56 percent left-side weight; Panhard bar at 11 inches left and 12 inches right, mounted to the right side of the chassis; and no front Ackermann with zero rear steer. 0000011703 00000 n 0000055574 00000 n 0000014548 00000 n It can be tempting to throw a lot at your car at once. was brp1537. 0000031307 00000 n 0000076680 00000 n 0000078961 00000 n 0000073059 00000 n brp9706. 0000055011 00000 n 0000055766 00000 n Change the RF spring to a 750-pound spring and the RR to a 175-pound spring. The motor is the popular Chevy 602, which is the iron-headed 350hp V-8. 0000046425 00000 n 0000023634 00000 n LF = 350; RF = 325; LR = 200 (350 pounds swing arm); RR = 175 (325 pounds swing arm). Comp. Now softer tires can be used with some siping. Designed For Northeast Dirt Modified's. 0000049821 00000 n 0000080923 00000 n 0000146940 00000 n LF: 650 startxref 0000040247 00000 n 0000065960 00000 n 0000040035 00000 n .0. 0000032028 00000 n Loomis' chassis is also not the freshest off the jig. RacingJunk, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Change the RF spring to a 750-pound spring and the RR to a 175-pound spring. 0000077225 00000 n 0000080067 00000 n Actually, nothing could be farther from the truth. was brp1537. The LF spring = 375; RF = 350; LR spring = 185; and RR spring = 175. 0000051089 00000 n 0000010587 00000 n Teo's, Bicknell's and Troyers supply the base of the car to ensure driver safety. 0000077247 00000 n What we need to do is think about how these conditions, one by one, affect a car and then set it up accordingly. 0000078294 00000 n A typical spring layout would be: left-front (LF) = 800; RF = 900 (or a 750 with a full spring rubber, if spring changes are not allowed); left-rear (LR) = 200; RR = 225 (or a 175 with two full spring rubbers). 0000074103 00000 n 0000065114 00000 n 0000052880 00000 n But be careful with this adjustment because it can also make you too tight getting into the turn. Don't try to make a change bigger than a 1/2 inch at a time, and be aware that moving the J-bar without adjusting the length can move the rear end laterally. 0000028829 00000 n 0000062829 00000 n 0000017011 00000 n 0000018394 00000 n 0000025406 00000 n 0000060138 00000 n 0000042630 00000 n Watch Your Tires Our intent was to provide some thoughts on making changes to the basic setup that might improve the car and make each phase better. On a track that has good moisture and is smooth, the car will be easy to control going through the turns and the speeds will be high. 0000050153 00000 n The greater the diameter split between the left & right axles, the more loose the effect is on throttle. 0000053471 00000 n 0000054299 00000 n 0000036653 00000 n 0000060942 00000 n 0000095039 00000 n 0000069530 00000 n 0000014427 00000 n Loomis says he plans to replace it eventually but it is still working so well for him that he hates to get rid of it. 0000119369 00000 n The "slide job" works well here because as you go under a car coming into the corner, you pass and inevitably slide in front of the passed car. 0000050575 00000 n %PDF-1.6 % Reduce the air pressure in the tires by 2 pounds all around. 0000024966 00000 n 0000066992 00000 n 0000040979 00000 n Keep the all-terrain tires and lower the pressures a bit. Raise the Panhard bar by 1 inch to 13 inches left and 9 inches right. The changes won't be big, but they can definitely be enough to change the way your car handles. And it had been so long since I had last raced, all that knowledge was dated too. 2. More than three decades later, the Canadian chassis manufacturer has become the industry leader with state-of-the-art equipment and facilities. 0000018558 00000 n 0000050806 00000 n 0000063254 00000 n 0000103111 00000 n 0000056610 00000 n 0000057647 00000 n 0000021968 00000 n Any moveable weight would be mounted low and left in the car. There is no way a team can run well in all of the conditions while maintaining the same setup. 0000020639 00000 n For starters, the Belleville Motorsports chassis, has had all of the previously mentioned front end geometry work completed by the manufacturer. 0000031748 00000 n 0000038008 00000 n Slots for Ease of Measure, Teo 2021 Elite Retro Tee 0000024352 00000 n 0000059486 00000 n 0000094497 00000 n 0000066444 00000 n xref 0000078754 00000 n 0000040481 00000 n Don't forget to support your local racetrack!! left rear drop rail set up stand. Dry, a condition in which the top layer is now drying out and losing material in the form of sand: 0.9 to 1.1 g's (loss of grip is now getting substantial, and the car will not turn well or get bite off the corners. 0000062598 00000 n 0000068319 00000 n 0000077959 00000 n 0000043016 00000 n 0000076402 00000 n They are more like asphalt anyway, and a team racing a dirt car on those tracks would do well to set up their cars more closely to an asphalt car setup. 0000025079 00000 n 0000081155 00000 n The problem with doing this is that your rear weight percentage will change as the fuel burns off. 0000022746 00000 n 0000070239 00000 n 0000081988 00000 n All Rights Reserved, Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. 0000030468 00000 n 0000075348 00000 n 0000011614 00000 n 0000024633 00000 n 0000023909 00000 n 0000077456 00000 n We might want to anticipate the dry and slicker conditions coming now for lack of time later. HS: With the track going to full dry and slick conditions, we need to get more radical in our setup. 0000079059 00000 n 0000058662 00000 n mfg: bicknell racing products . 0000024239 00000 n 0000036342 00000 n Mon-Tue 8:30am-7:00pm 0000067223 00000 n Forward bite is slightly reduced to a degree (from Option #1), but the axle diameters here still remain much thinner than standard axles sold which will allow for axle wrap-up and increased forward bite over any standard diameter axles. Although the rest of the car can be constructed from scratch from steel tubing, the front clip,. . 0000079010 00000 n 0000023747 00000 n 0000013059 00000 n 0000050593 00000 n 0000068088 00000 n 0000057033 00000 n 0000080230 00000 n You probably are like Loomis and unable to use fancy adjustable shocks, but they can still be a valuable tuning tool-even if you have to spend the loot for two sets. 0000071582 00000 n 0000070343 00000 n If your track doesn't require a specific brand of tire or you travel to tracks that force you to use a specific brand you may find yourself switching back and forth between Hoosiers and Goodyears-the two most popular brands among Mod racers. xref 0000037340 00000 n 0000080298 00000 n 0000014377 00000 n 0000026125 00000 n 0000074857 00000 n 0000040083 00000 n 0000033520 00000 n 0000078272 00000 n 0000032632 00000 n RR: 175, Caster Shocks trailer This track condition means the tires are getting a lot of grip and the surface tends to have ruts that grab the car hard. 0000035281 00000 n 0000012894 00000 n 0000020692 00000 n left rear drop rail set up stand. 0000073443 00000 n We also offer many top brands in high performance race car parts, shock absorbers and suspension components for Dirt Modified and Circle Track Racing. 0000062210 00000 n 0000059907 00000 n 0000077016 00000 n 0000086435 00000 n 0000070552 00000 n This becomes a factor once you finally have the front wheels pointed straight ahead after you get out of the turn and you want to get down the straight. 0000037791 00000 n 0000033493 00000 n 0000017513 00000 n 0000035310 00000 n 0000058684 00000 n Many spare parts. When using the Post Office: P.O. 0000066383 00000 n 0000024520 00000 n 0000075372 00000 n 0000016580 00000 n 0000098571 00000 n 0000031146 00000 n At the shop the next week, return your car to your baseline setup and check how much the settings have changed. bicknell dirt modified setup specs om -OCT. Pos. Murchison , TX . 0000035595 00000 n A typical setup might be: LF = 350; RF = 375; LR = 175 (325 pounds swing arm), RR = 225 (400 swing arm); 56 percent left-side weight; Panhard bar at 11 inches left and 12 inches right; and no front Ackermann with zero rear steer. 0000081756 00000 n 0000079339 00000 n Take a little sneak peek with us as we go behind the scenes with Bicknell Racing Products in St. Catherines, OntarioOff Track TV: https://www.offtracktv.com/. 0000046437 00000 n This is important because handling problems compound themselves. LM: We can now begin to change the spring rates at the RF, RR, and LR. LM: These conditions are the fastest you will encounter. The pull bar is what keeps the rear end from rotating counter-clockwise too much under acceleration. "Joel has so many cars out there that are racing on so many tracks, he's able to gather more information in a single weekend than a team can in several years' worth of racing. Chassis Parts. 0000047273 00000 n 0000044970 00000 n 0000028510 00000 n 0000038291 00000 n 0000064083 00000 n 0000029719 00000 n The track has now blackened over and the edges of the groove are loosening up with the surface material turning to drier sand. What makes these various conditions so hard on our setups is that the g-forces are changing along with the declining availability of grip as the track begins to dry out and go slick. <<4D97E536ECF89D40A1043D599CFB9229>]>> 0000017176 00000 n 0000009867 00000 n If you have your car working properly from turn entry through the center, you often will have few problems on turn exit that a gentle right foot can't handle. Light Weight Steel Frame Construction Gusseted for Extra Strength 0000025238 00000 n 0000061784 00000 n If you have a choice, run tires with large grooves such as the all-terrain types for mud and snow. Just be careful to always make one handling change at a time because as a rule, every change has secondary effects beyond the problem you are trying to address. 0000017625 00000 n We will need to change to tires that are harder, with less gap and more surface rubber. 0000026891 00000 n BRB1. The car's center of gravity (CG) needs to be lower when the grip is high. 0000039636 00000 n 0000023352 00000 n Keep the weight low and to the left, and use tires with wide grooving to release the wet mud easily. 0000058070 00000 n 0000066675 00000 n Left/Rear Cross (Bite): 0-50 lbs, Tire Pressures 0000026012 00000 n 0000061991 00000 n We will examine some physical rules that deal with chassis dynamics so we can arrange the setup to meet the conditions. details. For now, use a stiffer (RR) spring with a high Panhard bar mounted on the right side for consistency. 0000022908 00000 n 0000059717 00000 n 0000028064 00000 n It can be easy to make a couple of changes and have the secondary effects make the car mysteriously worse than before. Now we have come all the way to the most difficult conditions we will see in dirt track racing. 0000066781 00000 n Increase the rear steer by changing the angles of the left trailing arm. It is, in fact, a few years old. 0000000016 00000 n Bicknell Racing Products got its start when Pete Bicknell was in high school building his first racecar as a shop project. 905-685-7223 OP#1; administrator@bicknellracingproducts.com; Monday - Thursday: 8am - 5:30pm ; Friday: 8:00am - 4:30pm; Saturday: Closed In short, they will be all over the track. When the LF is hiked up considerably, we lose any front downforce that we might have enjoyed, as a great deal of air comes under the raised LF spoiler and we lose most of our front grip. 0000067597 00000 n Interestingly, Loomis' day job is the shop manager for Michael Waltrip Racing's Nationwide Series race shop. 0000071373 00000 n 0000065396 00000 n 0000050384 00000 n 0000048080 00000 n 0000034703 00000 n 0000034838 00000 n SETUP SHEET Author: Ted Curvin Created Date: 5/30/2008 12:42:52 PM . 0000020359 00000 n MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands The idea here is to use the added compression on the left rear to hold that corner up and the rebound on the right front to force that right-front tire down and help increase traction on the front of the car. 0000069299 00000 n 0000015017 00000 n 0000037392 00000 n 0000041451 00000 n fZ(L4&e,80F `uR Y/71xhEfH U(faXA`Z'(. The rear ride height would be set as low as possible, as this would raise the rear moment center and lower the CG to reduce the rear roll angle versus the front roll angle to help balance the setup. 0000013350 00000 n 0000028670 00000 n 0000048733 00000 n Raise the rear ride height another inch. .. Raise the rear ride height one more inch, move weight up and to the right in the car, and soften all of the shocks.General. We could raise the rear ride height an inch or so to be ready if the track begins to dry out some and affect bite off the corner. 0000017065 00000 n 0000075579 00000 n xR{HSa?o[JJ%6*w7ZeE"!tM0#tYY0n0C@BHnDgA? ` n?CE>3_oRC iD9 I1\RDIhGXiN8P3{@ZH:,`NR1d!v" vsj$U!,t @X QTey8J2Hhl]E"+\USIr5^M7cOuZ?~pl!^*,jg. 0000036485 00000 n 0000047697 00000 n Box 550 Florida, NY 10921 0000102876 00000 n 0000012899 00000 n By clicking All Cookies you agree to our Cookie Policy, it helps us better understand how the site is used and give you the best experience. This option is our maximum recommended offset between the left & right side axle diameters to allow for "on throttle" turn like that of adding tire stagger. So we thought we'd share his baseline setup. 0000065345 00000 n 0000018445 00000 n $19.57. During our visit, Loomis kept no secrets from us. It is time to soften the car, move weight over to the right, and lower the rear moment center more. 0000045896 00000 n 0000045538 00000 n 0000029110 00000 n 0000072853 00000 n We've just given you a lot of options when it comes to tuning your car. The driver can drive straight into the corner, brake harder, and get back into the throttle sooner than at any other time of the day. RR: 14, Stagger 0000007454 00000 n The class seems like it has been around forever, and it's still going strong all across the country because the general recipe keeps the cars simple, easy to work on and fix, and (relatively speaking) inexpensive. If you do your homework, you will benefit by having a car that turns much better allowing more turn speed and better bite off the corners. 0000028950 00000 n 0000052436 00000 n . Opinions will vary on these topics. Loomis began his racing career in the Northeast before moving to the South to work in NASCAR. Tire selection should include a little more siping to help dissipate heat, as the tires will begin to spin slightly coming off the corners. Forward bite is slightly reduced . "So I don't think I was that different than most racers when they are getting into this class. This, in most situations, should help steering. 0000015646 00000 n 0000057315 00000 n 0000074716 00000 n It is our most commonly used axle combination. startxref 0000075088 00000 n 0000054728 00000 n 0000029433 00000 n the RacingJunk.com. I'm not saying everybody has to go and call my guy, but when you are getting into a class and buying a car, the level of customer service he offers after the purchase is definitely something that you should consider.". To run a single setup throughout the day is not going to get the job done in this day and age. 0000146681 00000 n Loomis' advice is to always return to your baseline setup each week. 0000031588 00000 n 0000047748 00000 n LF: 14 0000053702 00000 n 0000079192 00000 n 0000044181 00000 n Image Part # Title Qty HRT - 36051400: Hoosier Late Model / E-Mod Dirt 8. . The setup may look like this: LF = 350; RF = 325; LR = 185; RR = 150 (double the rear springs for the swing arm car); Panhard bar at 12 inches left. This is simple to understand because the more weight you put on a tire the more traction you will have. "The thing that racing a lower horsepower motor forces on us is we're always working to free the car up," he adds. 0000133501 00000 n Copyright 2005-2023 0000047979 00000 n 0000065627 00000 n 0000013077 00000 n Get All the Latest Product updates & News from Teo Pro Car, ** total_quantity ** | ** unit_price ** / ** unit_measure **, 2021 Teo Elite Chassis Steel Replacement Parts, 2021 Teo Elite Rubber Floor, Coil Chassis, New Body, Floor Assembly, Shultz 24 Gallon Ultimate Fuel Cell Complete. 0000073674 00000 n 0000044739 00000 n 0000056819 00000 n This option is our maximum recommended offset between the left & right side axle diameters to allow for on throttle turn like that of adding tire stagger. As a result, you will notice that a lot of the handling adjustments recommended here will be located at the rear of the car where making adjustments with the precision necessary for racing is much easier. 0000050858 00000 n Thank you for subscribing to the newsletter! 0000016414 00000 n Make sure your car is correct for front geometry issues. 0000075141 00000 n 0000026294 00000 n This options best captures a bit of axle wrap (Forward Bite) with the thinner overall axle diameters & throttle turn (the tire stagger effect) that comes with different left-to-right axle diameters. Driver touch is most important in maintaining momentum). 0000055552 00000 n 0000017962 00000 n 0000015154 00000 n So even though we may be different in that regard, I think lots of racers in these cars are keeping their cars free so they can drive them through the corners nice and smooth.".
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